If you pay for a solution you wouldn’t have your information farmed but if you 
use a free service than yeah its gonna happen. But if you think about it from a 
business perspective we get a good deal. Give me 7.3 gigs of email space with 
gmail for free and if they want to analyze that and serve me ads that I will 
never click that’s fine with me as long as they don't start controlling my 
content or changing it or the ultimate betrayal sharing it in its complete form.

Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for information, 
demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid!

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:54:53PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> I'm also a huge fan of cloud (done properly).  I live in my gmail, gdocs,
> and remember the milk accounts and rely on Live Mesh for syncing between my
> home PC and laptop when traveling.
> 
> The key that makes all the google stuff work for me is Google Gears.  It
> does a pretty fantastic job of syncing and allowing offline access to my
> gmail.
> 
> ---------------------------
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing definitely
> > has major advantages over local for various things. Not all things but for
> > example storage. I rather have a google doc hosted by google that will never
> > get lost to a harddrive crash than a locally stored doc. I can also see big
> > promise in things like http://www.onlive.com/ for gaming. Cloud can't
> > replace everything but it can replace a few things really well. I personally
> > wouldn?t mind having a lightweight computer that boots off a flash image in
> > 2 seconds and connects to the web for accessing my files and basic
> > functionality. Something I never have to worry about for maintenance. That
> > would be the ultimate web surfing platform. Give one of those computers to
> > your family and never have to worry about fixing it ever!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
> > Sr. Security Researcher
> > Websense Security Labs
> > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:07 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
> >
> > At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote:
> > >Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are
> > >on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third
> > >world. My broadband connection failed again yesterday for a couple
> > >hours during the Michael Jackson memorial blitz. How can so many in
> > >the industry be pushing this nonsense is beyond me. However,
> > >competing against Microsoft is a good idea as it may bring down
> > >their ridiculous prices. Anybody pee od'd that Vista owners don't
> > >get a free upgrade to 7?
> >
> > I'm not a big fan of cloud computing either (but interestingly
> > enough, am working on a cloud-based project, so go figure.)  I don't
> > see net connections going down very often, but when they do, it could
> > be a big hit to a business.  Seems like a single point of failure
> > issue to me, but it is taking off.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >

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