This assumes you a. have the remote, b. the function is on that remote. Lot's of
descreet codes ARE NOT on remotes, others there's multiple definitions of the same
button code depending on the device it's used with, and many have not made it into
the Logitech DB because there is no button on anyones remote that generates them.
You're happy great, problem is there are reasons for more control and they're not
getting serviced because people like you say it aint broke. Meanwhile the rest of us
have been doing this since before Harmony, gained great functionality & flexibility
only to have a luddite targeted device come along and deliver 80% of the same
functionality when it could do 100% with nothing additional beyond removing
artificial barriers & assumptions.
I did not have to "fiddle" to get my stuff to work on a JP1 remote. I did have to
lookup the base info & button code values, but then all I did was type them in
exactly where *I* wanted them on a spreadsheet & upload. By comparison I have to
assume a given code is what is says it is and deal with a GUI hosted on a website to
get that code mapped to a button. Both are easy, the later could be the same if
they'd just give an option for advanced setup.
Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
None of these reasons impacts me in the least little bit. It took all
of 30 minutes to set my Harmony One up for control my stuff and free me
from constant remote hell. If I never need something in particular not
on the user-community provided menus I can grab the device remote. I
have plenty of better things to do than spent my time fiddling with
codes and macros.
maccrawj wrote:
Suggestion: Run away from Harmony!
When Logitech bought them out they removed all advanced direct access
to the remotes programming code. End result is you are at their mercy
when it comes to getting codes that don't exist in their "community
support" database (read: added by other endlusers by ir learning &
interpreted by logitech) add short of ir learning or calling TS to add
a pronto code.
Top ten reasons why Harmony sucks:
10. Not all codes in DB & many don't match their labeled function.
9. No user exposed Pronto Code support, so Code not in DB & no
original remote = frakked, call TS beg them to add by PC.
8. Painstaking PITA "activity based" system vs. simple devices & macros.
7. No real macro support.
6. Slow as molasses doing batches of commands that starting/stopping
"activities" issue.
5. *one* **online** copy of configured remote, no revisions or backups.
4. Programming "client" is a disguised Gecko web browser, leading to
various issues: 5min "idle" timeout w/o warning, 1990's era HTML
forms/buttons vs. Web 2.0, poor process flow, tedious button/device
management, internet needed to program, etc...
3. Arbitrary limitations on what buttons can be assigned device
functions like sound + buttons only being usable for display & audio
device, not the device serving them the signal; this despite being
able to assign those under device mode setup which you loose in
activity mode.
2. Zero interest on Logitech's part to address valid user issues with
interface, function, and ability to offline program; A forum base of
volunteer kool-aid drinkers with their finger poised on the ban button
for dissenters.
1. Expensive "rental" since the programming software is 100% on their
web server so they can switch to something new when it suits them
leaving support in the dust like they did mkb+mice with itouch/mouseware.
Sound angry? You bet, go read the forums before you drink the
kool-aid! JP1 universals still offer way more flexibility & direct
access to solutions at a lower price point with open source
programming software & strong community support. For that matter real
Pronto remotes are light years ahead & in same price range as fancy
Harmony's.
To be fair I have the Costco marketed low-end 6xx model, about $50
that I am still struggling to like mostly because it has a nice
programmable 6 button LCD that my JP1 remote lacks. If the offline
programming capable hacked open source softwares ever mature or
Logitech wakes up, then I'd recommend it with slight reservation as it
still can't have it's firmware functionality end-user extended like
JP1's can.
Sorry for long post but Logitech irks me on many levels!
Bobby Heid wrote:
Hey,
I'm looking at getting a universal remote. What do you all like in
the way
of remotes?
I was looking at the Logitech Harmony SST 659, 690, and 880 models. Any
suggestions?
