Dude...why don't you quit whining .... just because you want to live in
"remote code" hell doesn't mean the rest of us want or need to...if you
don't like the Harmony move on....
maccrawj wrote:
This assumes you a. have the remote, b. the function is on that
remote. Lot's of descreet codes ARE NOT on remotes, others there's
multiple definitions of the same button code depending on the device
it's used with, and many have not made it into the Logitech DB because
there is no button on anyones remote that generates them.
You're happy great, problem is there are reasons for more control and
they're not getting serviced because people like you say it aint
broke. Meanwhile the rest of us have been doing this since before
Harmony, gained great functionality & flexibility only to have a
luddite targeted device come along and deliver 80% of the same
functionality when it could do 100% with nothing additional beyond
removing artificial barriers & assumptions.
I did not have to "fiddle" to get my stuff to work on a JP1 remote. I
did have to lookup the base info & button code values, but then all I
did was type them in exactly where *I* wanted them on a spreadsheet &
upload. By comparison I have to assume a given code is what is says it
is and deal with a GUI hosted on a website to get that code mapped to
a button. Both are easy, the later could be the same if they'd just
give an option for advanced setup.
Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
None of these reasons impacts me in the least little bit. It took
all of 30 minutes to set my Harmony One up for control my stuff and
free me from constant remote hell. If I never need something in
particular not on the user-community provided menus I can grab the
device remote. I have plenty of better things to do than spent my
time fiddling with codes and macros.
maccrawj wrote:
Suggestion: Run away from Harmony!
When Logitech bought them out they removed all advanced direct
access to the remotes programming code. End result is you are at
their mercy when it comes to getting codes that don't exist in their
"community support" database (read: added by other endlusers by ir
learning & interpreted by logitech) add short of ir learning or
calling TS to add a pronto code.
Top ten reasons why Harmony sucks:
10. Not all codes in DB & many don't match their labeled function.
9. No user exposed Pronto Code support, so Code not in DB & no
original remote = frakked, call TS beg them to add by PC.
8. Painstaking PITA "activity based" system vs. simple devices &
macros.
7. No real macro support.
6. Slow as molasses doing batches of commands that starting/stopping
"activities" issue.
5. *one* **online** copy of configured remote, no revisions or backups.
4. Programming "client" is a disguised Gecko web browser, leading to
various issues: 5min "idle" timeout w/o warning, 1990's era HTML
forms/buttons vs. Web 2.0, poor process flow, tedious button/device
management, internet needed to program, etc...
3. Arbitrary limitations on what buttons can be assigned device
functions like sound + buttons only being usable for display & audio
device, not the device serving them the signal; this despite being
able to assign those under device mode setup which you loose in
activity mode.
2. Zero interest on Logitech's part to address valid user issues
with interface, function, and ability to offline program; A forum
base of volunteer kool-aid drinkers with their finger poised on the
ban button for dissenters.
1. Expensive "rental" since the programming software is 100% on
their web server so they can switch to something new when it suits
them leaving support in the dust like they did mkb+mice with
itouch/mouseware.
Sound angry? You bet, go read the forums before you drink the
kool-aid! JP1 universals still offer way more flexibility & direct
access to solutions at a lower price point with open source
programming software & strong community support. For that matter
real Pronto remotes are light years ahead & in same price range as
fancy Harmony's.
To be fair I have the Costco marketed low-end 6xx model, about $50
that I am still struggling to like mostly because it has a nice
programmable 6 button LCD that my JP1 remote lacks. If the offline
programming capable hacked open source softwares ever mature or
Logitech wakes up, then I'd recommend it with slight reservation as
it still can't have it's firmware functionality end-user extended
like JP1's can.
Sorry for long post but Logitech irks me on many levels!
Bobby Heid wrote:
Hey,
I'm looking at getting a universal remote. What do you all like in
the way
of remotes?
I was looking at the Logitech Harmony SST 659, 690, and 880
models. Any
suggestions?
