I agree and the same thing happened mid 2008 with the HD4800 series. Took several months for the drivers to mature but hey the HD58XX is new hardware and that's to be expected.

On 2/8/2010 8:16 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I suspect you may be right, Duncan. I recently "upgraded" to an ATI 5770 on an Intel Mobo. While the display looks nice, it's not as stable as the old GTS8800 I had (which I moved to the other PC). The drivers seem to be the problem.

I have an ATI 4650 on the AMD system in the office...that seems to work better.

On 2/8/2010 7:52 PM, DSinc wrote:
OK. $600 for WHICH board and WHAT CHIP?

(sorry, this is long......)

If this an nVidia vs AIT video card question, fine.
I will share......
I have now used 3 ATI video chips (cards).

I have replaced one ATI video chip with a Matrox G200 Video card. Well, just because I believe the on-board ATI video chip just does not wish to move "modern." I get this. It is MY PROBLEM. It is a really old INTEL m/b. (Chris! You get to laugh now!!! But, the STL2 is still trucking! Happy I am!)

I HAD an ATI 4350. Worked OK. Nothing spectacular. OK working video. YMMV. I replaced it with an nVidia 9600GT(S). Video is much better to my tired OLD eyes. (it is now a usable spare.)

I have still an ATI 4650. I write this using it. But, I will soon pull it and put another nVidia 9600GT(S) in its' place. No. Even I can NOT afford the latest nVidia offer. Either by HEAT, or, dollars!

I have tried (lived with) ATI video cards for 4 years. I still do not care for them. I have grown tired of repair/alternate installs/fixes needed to fix BS video card coded crash reasons and/or BlueScreens(2K/XP). I get tire of BS quickly now.

That is just my ONE vote! [Stan! Sue me!]

So, I am an nVidia kind-of-guy again (still). I started there. I am now just coming home......I feel. My last ATI video card will get replaced with another (spare) nvidia 9600GT(S).
Then, I will shop NEW spares!

I would love to own a handful of GTS250's. I am not certain that TVA and/or (or my electric meter) can supply enough TRONS to make the $$$ worth even a giggle-test!
I like/use the 9600-series nVidia card ATM. FWIW. YMMV.
Best,
Duncan


On 02/08/2010 18:15, Veech wrote:
Say $600 for board and chip.  I haven't owned ATI in ages and am only
making this change because the GeForce cards are going out on me. I'm
looking for recs on a board that plays nice with the 5850 card (a board
that has PCIe 2.0 and is capable of upgrade path to a second graphics
card in crossfire) and I'm looking for a quad-core CPU.

So it's not bleeding edge but a board and chip in the same class as the
graphics card -- higher-end bang-for-buck soluton that will last thorugh
the next couple of generations.

thanks!



----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 13:55
Subject: Re: [H] Best board and chip going right now?


best is subjective... I mean, on what kind of budget? Best bang for
the buck may be an i5-750/p55 combo.

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Veech" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:33:40
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [H] Best board and chip going right now?

thanks Boz...

I have pretty much decided on getting the ATI 5850 graphics card at this point. Now the question is, do I want to upgrade the board and chip while
I'm at it? If I decide to do so, I would really prefer to not have to
upgrade OS as XP seems to be working ok for me for now and I just
don't want
to have to hassle with reloading all my programs.. *sigh*

So based on going with the 5850 graphics card, what board and CPU is
the way
to go at this point? If I *have* to go to Windows 7 then I will, but I
just
want a quick fix at this point.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Veech" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:03
Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?


ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI
5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions?

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Boswell"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16
Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?


the 8800GT has 112 shaders
the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders
the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders


the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and
the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an
nvidia
card of that level IMO

OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance
level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than
the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you
eventually get off of XP

On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote:

I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine..
opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards
even
though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118


----- Original Message ----- From: "Veech" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28
Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?


I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which
was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers,
probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD
movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts.

So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing
it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA
nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media
Edition.

What would you folks recommend for replacement video cards? I would
probably stick with an SLI configuration unless a single ATI card
comparably priced would blow it away.

thanks!!









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