What did I start  with this thread LOL Some nice points as always.

I understand why people don't see the point of this device. But I have
to say after using it for a couple of days, I am pleased I bought it. I
bought it mainly for travelling as an entertainment device but now I am
taking it to meetings to make notes. It saves me taking my laptop and
paper notebook to the meetings I can draw on the screen and type notes,
then email them out. Yes I could do that on a tablet PC but they still
are not affordable or mainstream and my company does not provide a
tablet option (mind you I am very happy with my Lenovo X200 I wouldn't
change it for anything). So now when I travel I can watch movies on the
plane. Play the odd silly game and not get bored. 

Also it boots quickly so in the morning before running to meetings it's
great to check the news (as long as I have the wifi access), I don't
have to wait for my PC to boot it's all immediate. So as an on the go
device it's great. Yes I can do this all on my phone but the big screen
is just so nice and considering I don't have to take my notepad around
anymore it just replaces that so is not another piece of junk in my bag.

I hate using my laptop on the plane especially in economy (and that's
all I get for internal flights) because there just isn't the space to
have the screen up. As soon as the person in front reclines their seat I
have to put the laptop on my lap at an angle because the angle of the
seat in front won't allow me to put it on seatback tray. By the way I
never work on the plane so having word, excel and power point is
something I don't need, I am a nervous traveler and need to take my mind
off the fact that I am not on the ground I can't concentrate on work up
there :) I just need mindless entertainment.

As more and more innovative apps come out I can see this thing morphing
into a more and more essential device.

As for reading books. I never get to see daylight so the iPad is great
for reading books in my hotel room. But I can see how the iPad's screen
is not great for outdoor reading. I guess if I ever get time to sit by a
pool I'll have to buy a paper back :)

By the way I am not an apple fan boy there are things I hate. Like
yesterday iTunes decided to uninstall all my apps when I was synching so
I had to restore from a backup to get all my settings back. Also backup
takes forever. The fact that some apps are so much more expensive is
also crappy. I am not buying many now as I hope they will come down in
price and level out over time.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H] iPad

Exactly.  Sometimes we get over focused on hype (see today's article on
slate.com).  Apple just sold 320,000 ipads.  A good number. They hope to
sell 500k this month to 750k.   Great numbers.   Nintendo sold 500k Wiis
last month,  3+ years after introduction. 

Selling volumes in the computerworld is good, but turning around and
making it consistent matters.  For the ipad, far more then the iphone, a
lot of this depends on apps.  This is where I do have some concern with
how that goes.   Appke has repeatedly 'spiked' and removed apps based on
content concerns, including major name apps (hunt for the Nine Inch
Nails fiasco and Trent Reznor's take).  Apples policy with regards to
how they handle all this is does create a false economy (ecosystem) but
it isn't a monopoly.  

I used Nintendo as an example above because that's exactly what they
did.  They control everything about their product, software available
for it, etc. And its been shockingly successful. Apple has the same
success and the same outlook. 

I have and continue to use all.  I find snow leopard is effective and
nice, but win7 is finally really an intuitive os that thinks closer to
the way I do.  Make no mistake, vista was too bulky with too many
hangups to slow the user.   Windows7 is slick and managable, its taskbar
is more useful and intuitive then apple's dock, and its snap to and
mouse focusing features work with no after thought.  
But it took ms a lot of mistakes to get there.  How well the ipad
succeeds will be interesting.  To me, I can't figure out the point.  I
will never want to and type on a touch screen.  Because of the screen,
its worthless outside.. So while you can sit with a kindle at the pool
(I've done it) and read with zero eye strain, the ipad will appear like
a brick to read in bright light.  There just isn't that stand out
function that makes me say 'holy shit' I have to have it.  Let's face
it, apples ipod really isn't better then any other mp3 player.  My
creative still plays all my audiobooks just great.  But it was the
ecosystem and ability to buy and download for it that sold it to the
masses.  Ease of use. 

Everyone used mp3s.  I'm struggling to think what the breakthrough user
connection there is with an ipad
Sent via BlackBerry 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Weeden <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:22:11 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H] iPad

It depends on definitions.  If you define the market as OSX, then of
course
Apple has a monopoly.  But if you define the market as laptops, then
there
isn't any monopoly.

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Brian Weeden
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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:17 PM, maccrawj <[email protected]> wrote:

> When the market get's behind them as the defacto choice, the are a
> monopoly. Same goes for their PC's, after all who makes hardware than
runs
> OSX besides Apple?
>
> If all the app development and content ends up primaryily or even
solely
> supporting this device we have a real issue. Kindle is in the same
boat
> IMHO. We need to decouple the hardware, OS, and content so that no one
> company controls more than 1.
>
>
> On 4/7/2010 8:45 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
>
>> What monopoly?  Apple's products don't represent any kind of
>> monopoly...it's just apple product specific..
>>
>> On 4/7/2010 11:25 AM, maccrawj wrote:
>>
>>> Which is exactly why I'd never buy in, even if I needed it, too much
>>> of a monopoly.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/5/2010 7:23 AM, Brian Weeden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gotta love Apple's version of the "razor and blades" strategy with
>>>> all those
>>>> "must-have" accessories, Apps, and content (music and video).
Except in
>>>> Apple's case, they make a ton of money on BOTH the razor and the
blades.
>>>>
>>>>
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