Oh I agree completely that we end user won't see anything for several
months yet. I just wanted to point out that 25nm NAND flash exists right
now and is being shipped in volume from IM's FAB in Idaho. 25nm is real
now but that's still not small enough. I tend to agree with Anand that
2010 is not the year of the solid state drive. Big time market penetration
will be next year or the year after and I can't wait till the price drops
through the floor. Only then will the last piece of ancient PC tech begin
to die off. Well except for optical drives that is..
On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:53:11 -0500, Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote:
There is a big difference between a press release announcing
availability of
the raw NAND IC components and it being designed, validated, and
productized
into a full SSD with a required new controller. Those likely won't be out
until Q3 at the earliest. I can absolutely guarantee you that there is no
SSD shipping today that uses 25nm IMFT NAND ICs.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scoobydo
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H] Greg what do you think of this SSD?
Intel-Micron Flash Technologies Ships 25nm NAND Flash: Bigger USB Keys,
SSDs Coming Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - by Ray Willington Process
technologies continue to shrink at an alarming rate. It wasn't long ago
that
65nm seemed tiny, and now Intel is shipping out NAND Flash based around
25nm. In short, shrinking the production size enables manufacturers to
squeeze more memory, power, etc. onto an existing form factor. In other
words, CPU sockets and DIMM slots won't change sizes very often, so the
goal is to simply put more onto the modules we have.
IM Flash Technologies, which is a joint venture between Intel and Micron
that is targeted for producing NAND flash memory, announced in late
January that they were working hard to develop 25 nanometer Flash
memory.
It was neat, but easy to brush off, since nothing new was actually
shipping to
consumers. Companies make these wild breakthrough claims all the time,
but this one's different. Just a few months after the debut, Intel has
now
declared that same 25 nanometer memory ready for shipment, meaning that
it's ready to make an impact in the market. Larger capacity memory
products,
here we come.
Starting this week, Intel-Micron Flash Technologes are in mass
production
of
the 25 nanometer NAND Flash, and volume shipments have commenced.
That makes IMFT the first to "sample, and now to ship in production,
25nm
NAND using the world's smallest, most advanced manufacturing process
technology." The 8GB 25 nanometer memory chip measures just 167mm2
and can hold up to 2,000 songs, 7,000 photos or 8 hours of video, and it
should be showing up in USB keys, SD cards, Flash drives in camcorders
and
even SSDs soon.
On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:29:13 -0500, Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote:
> There hasn't been another die shrink from IMFT (Intel/Micron Flash
> Technologies) yet. They dropped prices around 60% last year when
> moving from 50nm to 34nm, and the move down to 25nm will not occur
> until later this year. It will also require an updated controller.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Scoobydo
>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:01 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [H] Greg what do you think of this SSD?
>>
>> Anand doesn't expect the price to drop significantly this year. Even
>> with
> the
>> recent die shrink from Intel/Micron and Samsung they haven't passed
>> along the savings to consumers yet. Next year we can expect the
>> prices to
> finally
>> start to fall more and within 5 years the mechanical hardrive will be
>> on
> it's
>> way out. Seagate is coming out with a 3 Gig drive this year..
>>
>>
>
>
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