Cool, just excited to see what you think of Android. Let me know once you get it.
Thanks! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com>wrote: > No, had to wait a week. It's going to be a work phone and I have to > double-check with my employer to make sure they're going to cover the plan > I want before signing the contract. > > > > --------- > Brian > > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar <z00...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Did you get it? > > > > :) > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks man, I think I'll pull to trigger tomorrow on the phone and then > > > I'll start playing around. > > > > > > I don't really play games on my phone or do anything really intensive. > > > Mostly email, browsing, reading, and light apps. So the max battery > > life > > > tweak sound good to me. > > > > > > ------- > > > Brian Weeden > > > Secure World Foundation > > > +1 202 683-8534 > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2013, at 20:45, Naushad Zulfiqar <z00...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree with your assessment. HTC has better hardware (physical) and > > > > software (sense 5) vs Samsung (Plastic and Touchwiz). Samsung is too > > > > cartoony and weird looking for me. Regarding the hardware button, I > > also > > > > agree, hardware button is pretty bad to use and I don't like it. > That > > > > said, the HTC ONE is a capacitive button and also set up the wrong > way > > > (not > > > > following android guidelines). There is some weirdness going on with > > HTC > > > > also, such as hitting home twice for the task manager and other > > > keypresses > > > > to get Google Now. > > > > > > > > I've owned several high end phones over the years, and for some > > reason, I > > > > still prefer the on screen keys that the Nexus 4 provides. Along > with > > > the > > > > MOTO X and some other models. > > > > > > > > About OTA, some custom roms do offer OTA, but their OTA can be half > > baked > > > > or really well done. But in either way, you download the full > package > > > and > > > > then upon accepting the OTA it automatically goes into recovery and > > > flashes > > > > it or you flash it manually. Thankfully the process is not too > painful > > > and > > > > the OTA's don't come too often, maybe once a couple of weeks or in > some > > > > cases once a month. > > > > > > > > One more thing, with android you never change the bootloader, just > the > > > > recovery and ROM. Speaking of recoveries there are mainly 2 out > there. > > > > CWM (Clockwork) and TWRP. TWRP is more graphical and supports the > Open > > > > Recovery Script that a lot of ROMS use to automate stuff like > flashing > > > the > > > > ROM, then modem, then something else, then wiping dalvik cache and > > other > > > > stuff, so that's why I recommended TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project). > > > > > > > > With either recovery it's advisable to first do a nandroid backup > from > > > > within the recovery. This is akin to creating an ISO image of your > > > phone, > > > > so if you flash to a newer version of a ROM or to a different ROM and > > > don't > > > > like it, you can always "re-image" your phone back to it's previous > > state > > > > including all preferences and wallpapers that you have set. It's a > > true > > > > image. > > > > > > > > Also read up on Titanium Backup. That app is worth it's digital > weight > > > in > > > > gold!! I use it regularly and almost every day. It can do some > > > freakishly > > > > amazing stuff!! > > > > > > > > In the end, if none of this custom ROM malarkey makes you happy, it's > > > also > > > > very easy to revert back to stock and continue using it that way. > > > > > > > > For a vanilla experience with some bells and whistles over stock, try > > > > Cyanogenmod. It's compiled from the AOSP (Android Open Source > Project) > > > and > > > > has some really nifty features built in that I wish were in stock > > > android. > > > > In fact a lot of stuff in stock comes from Cyanogen. These guys are > at > > > > the leading edge of Android Development. > > > > > > > > But there are some caveats with Cyanogen (www.get.cm) Stable builds > > for > > > > the S4 and One don't exist, and you would have to run nightlies. > That > > > can > > > > also mean flashing every night. Thankfully there is a free app > called > > > > Cyandelta on the play store that downloads only the delta's and > flashes > > > > that, so instead of a 180 MB download every day, it's around 5-6 > megs. > > > But > > > > then again, if a particular build of the nightly is working fine, > then > > > > there is no real reason to upgrade. But you know me, I like to > inflict > > > > hurt on myself :) > > > > > > > > Hope that's not too overwhelming. It may seem as such, but once you > > > > understand the basics, flashing ROMS and Kernels is really fun and > you > > > can > > > > really tailor your device to your particular usage needs. Like I > > said, I > > > > value battery life, so I flashed the ROM and Kernel that gave the > best > > > > battery life for me. But at the same time, when I wanted to play > > games I > > > > wanted full performance. Hence I chose Carbon Rom and Matri1x > Kernel. > > > > > > > > I'll do some general research on the HTC one and will provide some > > > > suggestions on which Kernel and/or ROM you should start off with. > > > Speaking > > > > of which, the best path in the beginning is to stick to a customized > > > stock > > > > ROM. That's where they take the stock rom and tweak it to remove > > > excessive > > > > bloat, add new features and tweak the speed. You get the stock look > > and > > > > feel but with generally better performance and features. > > > > > > > > Till next time, take care! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thanks, this is good stuff. > > > >> > > > >> I've been going back and forth about S4 or One, and I could probably > > > live > > > >> with either. The one thing that sort of annoyed me about the S4 was > > > that > > > >> it still has a hardware menu button, despite that going away in > > Android. > > > >> Plus the Samsung software is just horrible. While I could probably > > live > > > >> with the default HTC software, no way I could deal with the Samsung > > > crap. > > > >> > > > >> Part of what I'm struggling with is being overwhelmed with options. > > > Unlike > > > >> iOS where you get one bootloader, one recovery, and one ROM there's > a > > > ton > > > >> of options out there for Android. However, I have gotten really > used > > to > > > >> OTA updates and a good backup/recovery if something goes wrong. Do > > any > > > of > > > >> the options you suggest offer OTA? Does going such a customized > route > > > make > > > >> recovery any harder? What about backing up your device? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --------- > > > >> Brian > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar <z00...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hey there Brian. > > > >>> > > > >>> First off good choice on the phone. In my opinion and after using > > both > > > >>> phones I do say that the One is better than the S4. That said, the > > > >> Verizon > > > >>> versions info is sparse at best. I found info on most other > carriers > > > >>> except verizon. Anyway, that link you had seems okay. > > > >>> > > > >>> The basic premise for HTC phones is as follows. > > > >>> > > > >>> 1. Unlock Bootloader (do this as soon as you get your phone > because > > > if > > > >>> you unlock the bootloader you basically end up deleting all user > data > > > on > > > >> it > > > >>> and returning it to factory settings) > > > >>> 2. Once the bootloader is unlocked you need to flash a custom > > recovery > > > >> on > > > >>> it. Having a custom recovery will allow you to basically flash any > > > file > > > >>> into the OS. > > > >>> 3. I recommend TWRP for the recovery. I find it the best. > > > >>> 4. Also download superuser (like supersu or others) from the web > and > > > >>> download it. > > > >>> 5. Once you flash the recovery and copy the supersu onto the > phone; > > > >>> 6. You would boot into TWRP and flash supersu from there. > > > >>> > > > >>> That's it your phone is rooted with a custom recovery. From there > > you > > > >> can > > > >>> do anything you want. > > > >>> > > > >>> Now regarding stock Android...............I think you will be > losing > > a > > > >> lot. > > > >>> There are a lot of camera optimizations on these devices that you > > would > > > >>> lose if you went that route. I would suggest doing the following. > > > >>> > > > >>> 1. Put the custom recovery and root the device. > > > >>> 2. Keep the stock rom > > > >>> 3. Use a launcher such as APEX or NOVA (I use APEX) and you will > > then > > > >> have > > > >>> a pure vanilla android homescreen experience, but still retain the > > > >>> optimizations that HTC did for the camera and speakers and other > > > things. > > > >>> > > > >>> If you insist to have vanilla android on it then if I'm not > mistaken > > > then > > > >>> the Google Edition HTC One ROM does work flawlessly on the HTC One. > > > >>> > > > >>> There are no major caveats to doing a custom rom. Make sure that > you > > > >> check > > > >>> out custom kernels also, they really really really improve the > > > >> performance > > > >>> of the phone. > > > >>> > > > >>> Just for info I'm using a Nexus 4 with Carbon ROM and Matr1x Kernel > > > with > > > >>> GPU Overclock. I'm getting similar performance to the S4 with all > > day > > > >>> battery life. What's not to like!! The new MOTO X looks good to > me > > > >> also, > > > >>> despite it being called a mid range device, I would have to > disagree. > > > >>> People are becoming spec whores and in the end there is no benefit > to > > > >>> having all that power when the apps don't need it and the battery > > life > > > >>> suffers. For me, if I was in the US right now, the MOTO X would be > > > near > > > >> or > > > >>> on the top of my list. One more thing, do consider getting a > nexus > > 4, > > > >>> they are cheap as chips and still a very viable phone and a > > powerhouse. > > > >>> Otherwise wait till November for the Nexus 5. > > > >>> > > > >>> Oh and one more thing...... > > > >>> > > > >>> XDA Developers website and forums are your best friend. Repeat > after > > > >>> me....... XDA Developers is awesome!! > > > >>> > > > >>> LOL! > > > >>> > > > >>> Good luck and welcome to the world of Android. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Brian Weeden < > brian.wee...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I'm switching from iOS to Android in the next week or so. I want > an > > > >> HTC > > > >>>> One with just stock Android on it. Only real option for good > > coverage > > > >>>> where I need it is Verizon, and with them I would get charged the > > same > > > >>>> price whether I had a subsidized phone or not. So, my plan is to > > get > > > a > > > >>>> new, subsidized HTC One and then root it to put stock Android on > it. > > > >>> This > > > >>>> guide seems to be just what I need: > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.cultofandroid.com/26527/rooting-the-htc-one-the-right-way-how-to/#BPoyTdi0vV0cqaz0.99 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I'm wondering if there are any gotchas I'm going to run across. > > Like, > > > >>> would > > > >>>> the fact that the phone is locked to a carrier (because it's under > > > >>>> contract) prevent me from rooting it? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --------- > > > >>>> Brian > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar < > z00...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Yeah I do it all the time. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> What do you need. > > > >>>>> On Aug 3, 2013 7:34 PM, "Brian Weeden" <brian.wee...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Anyone on here have experience with putting custom mods on > Android > > > >>>>> phones? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> --------- > > > >>>>>> Brian > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Best Regards, > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Zulfiqar Naushad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad