Re: [H] Win 8.1pro (working)??

[DSinc]

M,
OK. I suppose I choose to just M$ OS sw without all the added "benies." 
No harm, no foul. I did not care for the
rather forceful way M$ pushed me to their exalted extra benefits. You 
use them and get benefit from them. Fine.
I chose not to play and got frustrated not being able to complete an OS 
install. Now, I know the trick.
Perhaps, I will re-instal the OS now. At the moment, Win7 PRO SP1 
(64bit) is installed and working well. For the
moment I am happy.
Duncan
On 05/24/2014 15:15, Winterlight wrote:

They want you to have a email account that's it. If you have a live, 
msn,  hotlook, or outlook email address then you have an account. Then 
they sync everything to that account.. like One Note, one drive, 
windows phone. If I take a picture with my windows phone it is in my 
One drive folder before I go looking for it. I think it works 
great.... the best integration of any cloud program I have seen to 
date.. and it is all free. Besides, you get another free email 
account..big deal... don't use it any nothing gets sinked. It isn't 
like this is Facebook trying to lock you into a lifetime of 
unremovable snooping.

An interesting story this week is that the EU has issued a ruling, 
with no appeal permitted,  that compels Google to allow anybody in the 
EU from removing themselves or any information about them from Google 
search. The Europeans know what is like to have this sort of 
information abused by government.

m

At 09:28 AM 5/24/2014, you wrote:
I completely agree. M$ is doing their best to force us to use their 
other 'lame' products.
I see it as a shameful 'Eye-Ball' grab with little positive benefit. 
BTW, I am getting close to
firing Hotmail also after 20 years. I suppose I may spend weeks 
cajoling the new OS to stop
using the Bing search engine also. LOL!
Duncan

On 05/24/2014 10:21, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
It does piss me off that MS seems to be trying to force anyone using 
windows 8 to create an MS account.  This needs to change.

On 5/24/2014 8:06 AM, DSinc wrote:
Jamie,
Thanks for the link! Nice to see I was not the only frustrated 
installer. Just another
example of M$ perverse logic. In the end, I backed up and just 
installed Win7 PRO
SP1 on the machine. This install went smooth and is working very well.
Thanks again. I know the Collective would have an answer!
Duncan

On 05/23/2014 22:52, Jamie Furtner wrote:
Duncan, look at this:
http://superuser.com/questions/661416/how-to-install-upgrade-to-windows-8-1-rtm-without-a-microsoft-account/661592#661592 


It doesn't make sense, but what Bobby is saying is correct - you 
start
by selecting "Create an account" and on the creation screen is the 
skip
option (at the bottom, "Sign in without a Microsoft account"). As a
guess Microsoft wants to push everyone to use a Microsoft account
instead so hiding it makes sense from that perspective, but I 
think it
should be on the previous screen.

Jamie

On 2014-05-23 6:10 PM, DSinc wrote:
Bobby,
Thanks so much for your share. Understand. I do not wish to
CREATE an account. I just wish to load and use the SW I have.
Gave up on Win8.1PRO due to the MS Account business.
Now, I am trying Win7PRO, but my DVD reader has now crashed
(and it was brand new?). One thing after another.
One day I may get there.
Duncan


On 05/23/2014 16:22, Bobby Heid wrote:
Trying to go from memory here. Select create account.  Then on the
screen
it takes you to, there is a link there to not use an account (or 
not
create
one or something like that).

Bobby

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Subject: Re: [H] Win 8.1pro (working)??

OK. 6hrs of googling 'How to deactivate Windows' ended with 
failure.
So I put my 64bit W8.1 PRO DVD in the reader and launched it. Yes,
it did warn me, but it did format my SSD again (finally!). And, the
installer
continued to install W8.1 PRO,,,,,,,,,or, so I thought. I thought I
might get
though this task cleanly. NOPE! M$ stalls at me creating a 
"Microsoft
Account"
and, I can not get past this. I do NOT wish to create this. M$ 
does not
let me
optout, say NO!, bypass, etc. I do not care what benefits M$ may 
offer.
I do not
want to playjust to use their SW. Slimy BS to me. JMHO.
The PC is now fully down. I may try and install W7
PRO..................still have those
copies!!!!!
Duncan

My frustration is now complete.
On 05/23/2014 08:49, DSinc wrote:
Thanks Vincent,
I sorta agree with your comments, although I've only seen one
version of
IE11 (which I do not use). Do you mean one version for desktop (my
use),
and a second version for tablet use?
I will google about how to de-activate my current w8.1 install 
(full
version).
Then I can install my w8.1 PRO OS version. I have very little 
data to
miss just now.
I am still peeking/poking around figuring w8.1 out. It is very
scrambled up!
Duncan

On 05/22/2014 20:24, Vincent Winterling wrote:
According to my understanding of the EULA, if you have 
deactivated a
Windows
system and it's not an OEM version, you are free to install it on
another
machine.

If you run 8.1 from the desktop which is now easy to do (and get
the 8.1
update) you'll find a very stable OS that has more options 
than before
(e.g., capacity for use with touch devices). And while I 
acknowledge
I might
be the crazy 1% that actually likes Windows 8.1, it runs fine 
here on
several machines.

That said, it also has it's failings. The 2 versions of IE are 
stupid.

On balance, I have to say my daughter uses 8.1 from the touch 
screen
almost
completely and she likes it. She rarely uses the desktop.

Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ

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Subject: Re: [H] Win 8.1pro (working)??

Collective,
OK. Let me ask another question. I purchased, opened the 
package, and,
installed Windows 8.1 (64bit).
It seems to run very stable, if still very confusing to me 
atm. I will
get over this, thank you.
Yes, I did also "activate" this install; so I believe that M$ now
knows
that one of my PCs is now using W8.1.
Fine.  I also know that I can not re-use my DVDs again EXCEPT to
re-load
the same OS to the PC it lives on
now. I believe I am now part of some large 'Activated' 
database at
M$. Fine.
I am licensed to use the M$ code from the DVDs and any follow on
support
services. I own the DVDs and the
package only.

Does M$ have a 'De-Activation process' should I decide to 
install this
W8.1 code on a different PC that I own?

No, I have no plan to sell my W8.1 (full version 32/64) to anyone
else.

Thank you for any comments/suggestions you choose to share.
Duncan