Would the Circle device work if the device is a shared PC that's being used during the day for classes on Zoom but then by the parents later in the day...?
-----Original Message----- From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:52 PM To: christopher.f...@thefisks.org Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Blocking YouTube? We use a Disney Circle device to do both content filtering/blocking and time limits on internet access for our kids. You can do different profiles for each person and assign all their devices to their profile. Nice iOS/Android app for managing things and also has an app to control access on phones over LTE. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:10 PM Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > " I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the > night on YouTube." > > Well, that's your problem. Your problem isn't youtube, it's your > daughter staying up late! ( xyproblem.info ) > > Use a router with access controls and disable access for her MAC > addresses after bed time. > > That way your internet works fine, you don't have to do things that > she can work her way around. Your router just doesn't let her > machines connect to the internet during that time. > > DD-WRT has support for this built in: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki > .dd-wrt.com%2Fwiki%2Findex.php%2FParental_control&data=04%7C01%7C% > 7C18657d66864b4b7f71ae08d88c0c33cd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa% > 7C1%7C0%7C637413331321310893%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=t4J > vJtV%2F8NDcPX9JKGLB0FZeuFIQzVw%2F%2Fm4ycQ%2FsZLo%3D&reserved=0 > > > Is that more of what you're looking for? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM Z00100 <z00...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > So my question to you is why not? > > > > > > > > I have the same issue with my daughter and she stays up half the > > night on YouTube. We can’t take the phone per se because she uses it > > as an alarm clock etc and the only safe place to ensure she doesn’t > > take it at night > is > > in our bedroom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM, <Christopher Fisk (mailto: > > christopher.f...@thefisks.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I ask WHY you're looking to do this? Is the kid just not > > > following > > the rules? Taking away the device they're using to circumvent the > > rules seems like the right thing to do to me. This isn't a simple problem. > > Removing just access to youtube for someone with computer skills and > > determination to get it will be almost impossible without really > tightening > > down things. 1. Remove admin rights from the teenager's PC for their > > user account 2. Remove the ability to boot from anything except the > > installed HDD (to prevent creation of admin account through tools or > > running linux from livecd) 1. Set a BIOS password after configuring > > the boot sequence > 2. > > Teen might be able to reset password, so seal the computer case so > jumpers > > can't be touched 3. Setup Chrome and all other browsers in locked > > down > mode > > using either kiosk mode for the browser, or GPO 1. the GPO should > > set a > web > > proxy server to a machine running squid or other proxy software so > > you > can > > block youtube there, as well as track what they're doing to > > circumvent > the > > block 4. Setup the PC so they can't run anything that isn't on the > > whitelist of applications (so they don't download a standalone > > version of firefox/chrome and get around your lockdowns) 1. (This is > > insanely time consuming and will run into issues when you're trying > > to update the > > computer) In a business environment you can do the majority of this > > and centrally maintain things and it's a full time job. Doing it at home? > That > > seems insane. Non-admin rights, locked down profile, not being able > > to install software and not being able to change the browser > > settings will > get > > the majority. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bino Gopal < > > binogo...@hotmail.com (mailto:binogo...@hotmail.com)> wrote: > So > > what’s the simplest/most elegant way to block YouTube on a PC when > > > you’ve got a resourceful teenager who can Google and attempt to > circumvent > > > any methods you use? > > Is it on the PC or on the network first > > off? > > On the PC would UAC and an admin account and editing the > hosts > > file be > enough? Or fwd proxy software for all browsers preventing new > > browser > install? > > Or just do it with filtering on the router > > outbound? > > How complicated do you need to get exactly? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > BINO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- --------- Brian
