I'm personally not interested in Brazos for an HTPC, I want one to replace my current Phenom II X2 545 based media server. I have it underclocked at 2 GHz and undervolted to the point of not booting if I go one step lower and it still uses 85 watts idle speed. Brazos is cheap and very energy efficient for my purposes and with SATA 6 gig connections too.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:58:48 -0600, Brian Weeden <[email protected]> wrote:

So basically when I replace my current Ion HTPC head-end boxes I should look
for a Brazos-based ones.  And I will likely be replacing the guts of my
media server with Sandy  Bridge for the sweet transcoding performance.

AMD and Intel both win!

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On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stan Zaske <[email protected]> wrote:



http://www.anandtech.com/show/4134/the-brazos-review-amds-e350-supplants-ion-for-miniitx

Final Words
With the settlement done and no DMI license in place, it's clear that there won't be another ION from NVIDIA (at least not based on x86). What Brazos is
however is the ION successor that NVIDIA never built. For just over $100
you'll be able to buy a mini-ITX board with an E-350 that's faster than
Atom, faster than ION and more feature rich than both. While I don't believe Brazos has enough CPU power under the hood to be a truly high end HTPC, it's
easily good enough for a low cost, value HTPC. Popular codecs are well
accelerated and with full DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD bitstreaming support Brazos is solid. Flash acceleration is also present although it looks like
there are still some kinks that need to be worked out there.


Overall performance is much better than Atom, particularly in single
threaded applications. Brazos and the E-350 can make for a very affordable email/web browsing machine, and run those applications much faster than Atom could. As our more complex workloads showed however, the E-350 is limited to the same type of general usage models as Atom (with a bunch of new media and gaming options). You can run heavier apps on the E-350, you'll just be far
better off with an Athlon II instead.

The Radeon HD 6310 proves to be a good match for the Bobcat cores in the
E-350. There's not much value in adding a faster GPU via the on-board PCIe
x4 slot as most games will be at least somewhat CPU bound. The resulting
CPU/GPU combination is something that's typically as good as, if not better than Intel's Core i5 661 in games. In some cases the Radeon HD 6310/E-350
combination nips at the heels of Intel's Core i3 2100. Unfortunately in
modern titles that's not always enough to have a playable experience, but
with older games you should be able to do more with Brazos than you ever
could with Atom or even ION for that matter. The CPU/GPU balance in the
E-350 is good enough that I feel like Llano could make for a pretty decent
value gaming machine.

Just as was the case with Atom, Brazos isn't going make for a very powerful primary PC. Load up the thread count or throw heavier workloads at it and the E-350 doesn't look all that much better than an Atom D510. What it will give you however is better single-threaded performance than Atom and a much better feature set. Brazos makes those secondary or tertiary computers you
build much better than they would have been otherwise with Atom. I would
like to see more CPU performance out of the platform and I'm not too keen on
meeting the single core versions, but viewed through ION glasses Brazos
looks good.

For AMD, Brazos has to be exciting. The company finally has a value
offering that it doesn't have to discount heavily to sell. Brazos does very
well against Atom on absolute performance, die size and price. The E-350
isn't the most powerful Fusion APU we'll meet, but it's a great way to
introduce the family.

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