Would be great for whs though
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From: "Stan Zaske" <[email protected]>
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:21:57 
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Subject: Re: [H] 1st Retail Brazos Review from Anandtech.

I'm personally not interested in Brazos for an HTPC, I want one to replace  
my current Phenom II X2 545 based media server. I have it underclocked at  
2 GHz and undervolted to the point of not booting if I go one step lower  
and it still uses 85 watts idle speed. Brazos is cheap and very energy  
efficient for my purposes and with SATA 6 gig connections too.


On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:58:48 -0600, Brian Weeden <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> So basically when I replace my current Ion HTPC head-end boxes I should  
> look
> for a Brazos-based ones.  And I will likely be replacing the guts of my
> media server with Sandy  Bridge for the sweet transcoding performance.
>
> AMD and Intel both win!
>
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> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stan Zaske <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.anandtech.com/show/4134/the-brazos-review-amds-e350-supplants-ion-for-miniitx
>>
>> Final Words
>> With the settlement done and no DMI license in place, it's clear that  
>> there
>> won't be another ION from NVIDIA (at least not based on x86). What  
>> Brazos is
>> however is the ION successor that NVIDIA never built. For just over $100
>> you'll be able to buy a mini-ITX board with an E-350 that's faster than
>> Atom, faster than ION and more feature rich than both. While I don't  
>> believe
>> Brazos has enough CPU power under the hood to be a truly high end HTPC,  
>> it's
>> easily good enough for a low cost, value HTPC. Popular codecs are well
>> accelerated and with full DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD bitstreaming  
>> support
>> Brazos is solid. Flash acceleration is also present although it looks  
>> like
>> there are still some kinks that need to be worked out there.
>>
>>
>> Overall performance is much better than Atom, particularly in single
>> threaded applications. Brazos and the E-350 can make for a very  
>> affordable
>> email/web browsing machine, and run those applications much faster than  
>> Atom
>> could. As our more complex workloads showed however, the E-350 is  
>> limited to
>> the same type of general usage models as Atom (with a bunch of new  
>> media and
>> gaming options). You can run heavier apps on the E-350, you'll just be  
>> far
>> better off with an Athlon II instead.
>>
>> The Radeon HD 6310 proves to be a good match for the Bobcat cores in the
>> E-350. There's not much value in adding a faster GPU via the on-board  
>> PCIe
>> x4 slot as most games will be at least somewhat CPU bound. The resulting
>> CPU/GPU combination is something that's typically as good as, if not  
>> better
>> than Intel's Core i5 661 in games. In some cases the Radeon HD  
>> 6310/E-350
>> combination nips at the heels of Intel's Core i3 2100. Unfortunately in
>> modern titles that's not always enough to have a playable experience,  
>> but
>> with older games you should be able to do more with Brazos than you ever
>> could with Atom or even ION for that matter. The CPU/GPU balance in the
>> E-350 is good enough that I feel like Llano could make for a pretty  
>> decent
>> value gaming machine.
>>
>> Just as was the case with Atom, Brazos isn't going make for a very  
>> powerful
>> primary PC. Load up the thread count or throw heavier workloads at it  
>> and
>> the E-350 doesn't look all that much better than an Atom D510. What it  
>> will
>> give you however is better single-threaded performance than Atom and a  
>> much
>> better feature set. Brazos makes those secondary or tertiary computers  
>> you
>> build much better than they would have been otherwise with Atom. I would
>> like to see more CPU performance out of the platform and I'm not too  
>> keen on
>> meeting the single core versions, but viewed through ION glasses Brazos
>> looks good.
>>
>> For AMD, Brazos has to be exciting. The company finally has a value
>> offering that it doesn't have to discount heavily to sell. Brazos does  
>> very
>> well against Atom on absolute performance, die size and price. The E-350
>> isn't the most powerful Fusion APU we'll meet, but it's a great way to
>> introduce the family.
>>
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