Exactly, you shouldn't even care what the physical interconnect is. It's fast and has low latency, eat it up.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:53:04AM -0400, Julian Zottl wrote: > What I think has been funny is that you all are arguing about interfaces > that were developed from the same company for different reasons: > > USB History: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus > Lightpeak History: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightpeak > > USB is great for slower devices, like mice/keyboard/printers and was even > adopted to hard drives because it was fast enough for it. It was meant to > simplify cabling and confusion by Joe Consumer. Lightpeak (I think > Thunderbolt is a retarded name) is meant for much higher speed things, like > external video cards, SSD's, etc. where direct interactions of memory are > involved. The switch to copper was not a huge surprise: Have you seen how > people throw wires in their bags? Fiber would never hold up to the abuse > that most people give copper. It also makes sense since they can now > provide power over the copper and it is cheaper for people to buy > (copper<<fiber). This will (hopefully to Intel) lead to it's wider > adoption. Apple loves new shiny things, so of course they jumped on the > bandwagon :) > > Sabre > > ---- > Julian > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Anthony Q. Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > > > How many apple products does one need to be a fanboy? I have products > > Intel, AMD, Apple, MS, LG, ASUS, Logitech, Gigabyte, Silverstone, > > Coolermaster, Corsair, Epson, HP, Samsung, Hannspree, Viewsonic, Panasonic, > > Seagate, Western Digital, Canon, Sony, kodak, HTC, Barnes&Noble, etc in here > > right now. Even a Dell laptop. I'm sure I could name some more, but my > > finger tips are hurting now. > > > > I am digging on my iPad 2, though. I love reading National Geographic > > on-the-go on this thing! > > > > > > On 3/21/2011 6:30 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: > > > >> Maybe I was too harsh by calling it a gimmick. I also said that it had > >> great promise for the future and that Intel caught everybody off guard by > >> changing their minds about using copper instead of fiber. It has very > >> limited usage at the moment and is exclusive to Apple products only. What > >> part of that did you Apple fanboys not understand? LOL > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:29:23 -0500, Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> That's the exact trend I was about to comment on. If this was AMD's > >>> technology, it'd be the greatest thing since the scroll wheel. It gets > >>> old. > >>> > >>> By the way, I hate the name Thunderbolt. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware- > >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin > >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:14 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [H] Intel Thunderbolt (aka Light Peak) > >>>> > >>>> So, by your definition, any new tech is a gimmick. I guess you hate on > >>>> everyone except amd these days, huh? > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:05 PM, "Stan Zaske" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > It is a gimmick. You don't think I know it's now included into > >>>> > >>> Applesauce > >>> > >>>> products? Really? Good first effort by Intel and Job's Mob. LOL Oh yeah, > >>>> > >>> Intel > >>> > >>>> changed their minds and based it on copper instead of fiber. The company > >>>> any intelligent person loves to despise more than Intel itself. LOL Or > >>>> is > >>>> > >>> that > >>> > >>>> Microsoft? > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 09:30:09 -0500, Anthony Q. Martin > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> A gimmick? It's now included on some Apple laptops. Why are new > >>>> things > >>>> considered gimmicks? Seems unfair to me, as that word mostly has a > >>>> negative connotation. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Sent from my iPad > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:53 AM, "Stan Zaske" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >>> It's just a gimmick at the present with great promise for the > >>>> future. > >>>> Imagine having that kind of speed with future SSD's capable of utilizing > >>>> > >>> it. This > >>> > >>>> is precisely the reason Intel has been very slow to adopt USB 3 in their > >>>> chipsets. They want to bypass and supplant USB 3 entirely. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:28:53 -0500, Bino Gopal > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface) > >>>> >>>> So I've read the Wikipedia article but I'm still not sure I get > >>>> *how* > >>>> > >>> this is > >>> > >>>> going to change things exactly...is this basically only a faster means > >>>> of > >>>> transferring data from external devices (like HDDs)? Is that all or are > >>>> > >>> there > >>> > >>>> more use cases I'm not thinking of? > >>>> >>>> And how do people feel this will compare to USB 3.0? Since I have > >>>> neither of them, it's an interesting question of which I'd rather > >>>> have/use > >>>> going forward...thoughts? I know some people are saying HDD speeds will > >>>> be the bottleneck now, not the bus, so if so, what would be the > >>>> advantage > >>>> > >>> of > >>> > >>>> one over the other in practical, everyday terms? > >>>> >>>> BINO > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> P.S. And is it just me, or was the time to market for this *really* > >>>> > >>> fast > >>> > >>>> compared to other new tech that gets announced and seems to take forever > >>>> before we see it in implementation?? > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> -- > >>>> >>> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: > >>>> http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- Bryan G. Seitz
