What exactly are you talking about? How have things become so polar,
thin, or polarized? It seems to be there are plenty of choices. And
referring to folks as "lemmings" just because they are not doing what
you want them to do is silly. The competition has the responsibility to
offer up products that attract people to them. I find it curious that
Amazon is now second in line to selling apps to apple, while google is a
distance third. And Amazon skinned Android. So obviously Amazon found a
formula that works, while google and its team of hardware companies
haven't yet. There is no one to blame for this situation as you
perceive it other than the competition.
On 4/4/2012 6:36 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:
As usual anthony you simply just dont get the concept of market forces from
a herd of lemmings running in a direction that's counterproductive for the
rest of us as choices thin out or become so polar. Best example is where
buying from china has gotten us.
Hey, that's okay you don't have to respond, clearly you refuse to
understand market forces and think it is just fine to have things polarized
like they are.
On Apr 4, 2012 1:17 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin"<[email protected]> wrote:
Every company has the same opportunities to market just as the next. It's
not apple's fault if they are more effective at it than other companies or
if people want their products more than they want those of other companies.
The hatred on this list is just silly. Saying that people who choose to
buy their products because they like them are idiots is just silly. There
was a time when apple was nearly bankrupt and they certainly did not have
they money they have now, but yet they created products that people liked
and bought....they took the music player business away from Sony who owned
the Walkman market. They certainly were not the first company to make
phones and tablets, but they understood enough about human nature to know
that people don't want to spend their money on chunky stuff. Apple's
success says a lot about the lousy competition they have, more so than the
amount of marketing they do.
Who cares if it's a walled garden or not if it does what people want to
do. If people choose to buy stuff from iTunes, it can only be because it
servers their desires to do so. It's their money. Saying they are idiots
for doing so is just some weird form of sour grapes. It makes zero sense.
On Apr 4, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Thane Sherrington<
[email protected]> wrote:
At 03:15 PM 04/04/2012, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Nonsense. it is giving "people", as in those how buy stuff from Apple,
exactly what they want. Were it not, people would not buy. You can't
force people to buy stuff just by marketing...they have to want what you
have to sell. And the closed walled garden must not be so bad, since
people are willing to go there. Just because you don't like it, doesn't
make all those people idiots. Those who want a piece of the pie are free
to market and offer whatever products they wish. But why aren't they doing
so?
I'm not sure if you completely misunderstand marketing or are just being
argumentative. You don't "need" anything that Apple sells. No one does.
You just "need" food, shelter and clothing. Marketing creates "want"
which is then fulfilled by the company doing the marketing. Apple has a
lot more money than most of it's competitors and has a charmed connection
with the media which gives it a huge advantage when marketing. I'll bet
people don't want to be in a walled garden. They just don't realize there
is an option.
Anyway, the fact that most of the rest of the human race are idiots is
pretty obvious. Present company excepted of course. :)
T
