Josh,
On this one; all I can say is a big, "DITTO."
Somehow I always got your position; even when
cryptically presented. No harm, no foul.
Yes, I am a PC-guy. I built all of my toys, or bought
a chassis built by someone else. I own two of these
still. Both remain a challenge........... :)
When I am forced to buy a designed, pre-fabricated
device that I can no longer 'personalize,' then this
hobby is over for me.
Duncan
On 04/18/2012 13:58, Joshua MacCraw wrote:
Okay, I'm not sure what email your reading but you're really going off the
deep end here.
First and foremost I am a consumer and most of my arguments are from that
point of view.
At the time compaq did this because it would help them get market share,
it's ultimately also helped pc users. I pointed it out to give you some
point of reference as to why PC users are a little more picky about letting
things get closed up again versus say a mac user or some game console user.
Again I say a reasonable, logical person would of caught on in the previous
posts. Stop being so reactionary read and process what I'm saying before
you go putting words in my mouth.
On Apr 18, 2012 8:24 AM, "Francisco Tapia"<[email protected]> wrote:
so you should run your business in a manner to help your consumers, but
kill your business?
if that is the case are you referring your customers to a lower cost
competitor of yours, who provides support 24/7 on their pc's?
-Francisco
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 19:32, Joshua MacCraw<[email protected]> wrote:
Compaq? Who cares what became of compaq! I was referring to how much
better
off consumers were because what compaq did to open the market up& give
us
more choices.
Funny, a half way logical reasonable person would've gotten that point.
On Apr 16, 2012 12:41 PM, "Francisco Tapia"<[email protected]> wrote:
and look how well that worked out for Compaq. it's effectively gone,
someday HP will retire the name completely
-Francisco
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:27, Joshua MacCraw<[email protected]>
wrote:
Simple answer is that those closed platforms never had the
renaissance
that
the Compaq initiated clone wars brought to PC's. Now we have choice
and I
will bash& attack anything that wants to set us back 30 years of
progress.
On Apr 16, 2012 9:37 AM, "Francisco Tapia"<[email protected]>
wrote:
nobody is forcing you to buy apple, and osx. While there are
people
who
pick up white box machines, there are countless more that pickup
the
HP/Dells. Only when you are buying a white box machine do you
get a
choice
to not install any OS and do it yourself at home. I don't
understand
why
it's bad that Apple controls their hardware and software. Nobody
complains
that you can't run a nintendo os on a sony psp hardware, or vice
versa.
If
I buy a Dell I know I am buying into windows. at least it's not a
straight
forward way to purchase ubuntu i7 laptops. I just checked. so
while
I
"CAN" go out of my way to download ubuntu, and install. I can't
just
receive my shiny new laptop open it up and login, and proceed to
dump
my
photos, videos and music into it. I have to first do the
wipe/install
:-/
thats not tough, but I have to wait I want to use my new shiny
laptop
now... :)
I've enjoyed the back and forth in this thread, mostly because I
was
all
anti-Apple a few years ago.
for the arguments that Apple is a bully and that they don't play
fair
with
their licensing, well... is it a requirement that all companies
license
their patents to anyone? I do agree that competition is a healthy
way
to
get newer better results for the end user. But does that mean
that
you
have to license off your advantage? You can hate apple or samsung
all
you
want for playing the patent game, but the real issue is the uspto,
unless
we keep writing to our representatives to get this fixed asap!
nothing
will
ever change.
the uspto is what fosters this idea that i can patent a door and
from
now
on anyone who has a door on their home or place of business must
pay
damages because they didn't license the door from me, with
ignorance
to
previous art.
also I'm glad that the amazon kindle fire argument was brought up,
and
it
does help support the walled garden mentality. People are buying
more
kindle fires with the easy access to the amazon store than any
other
android tablet because it fosters this mentality of safe
purchasing
within
the walled garden. make of it as you will...
-Francisco
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On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 21:09, Joshua MacCraw<[email protected]>
wrote:
<snip>
No love lost here, I really dislike Microsoft and many other PC
industry
giants for how they play ball BUT at least they aren't forcing
me
to
use
windows nor dictating who I can buy hardware from (yet).
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