We shouldl design in such a way that , we should get some 
interfacing/bootstrapping issues in C (can be C++ but i think due to its 
direct linking to natives C will be prefered i can present more argo over it 
though ;) )
 and then come back to java again until we feel ctuck some where (though 
what my experiance suggest and i have looked it into the presented projects, 
we can get rid of those concerete walls if any one we have to have face in 
the running of time )
 so what i am saying i m summing it up
 write in java using C.
 java provides us all those features which we need to go to this road , from 
the management, maintianbility and other stuffs (i m not writting SE book 
though ha ha ha) u all knows better.
 so what u think comment ?
 On 5/18/05, Panagiotis Astithas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Ben Laurie wrote:
> > Mark Brooks wrote:
> >
> >>> C++, just C++, is a recipe for trouble. Most projects that use it
> >>> define a
> >>> subset to make development a less painfull talk. Usually operator
> >>> overloading, templates and virtual inheritance are discarded.
> >>>
> >>> Rodrigo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Agreed. If the decision is to go with C++, it will need to be a
> >> subset of C++ for sanity. I still think that, at most, a minimal C
> >> kernel and the rest in Java is a better option.
> >>
> >>> > As I said before, don't assume we're all Java fans here. I'm far 
> more
> >>> > familiar with C++ than I am with Java.
> >>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Ben.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you aren't a Java fan, why are you interested in Harmony? Or am I
> >> misinterpreting what you meant there?
> >
> >
> > Surely I don't have to rate Java as the best language for everything in
> > order to be interested in Harmony? I don't think HTTP or SSL are the
> > best ways to do things, either, but I've spent an enormous amount of
> > time on both of them.
> >
> > There's all sorts of reasons I'm interested in Harmony.
> >
> > a) I recently tried Eclipse, and discovered it removed a major source of
> > Java irritation (excessive amounts of redundant typing). In fact, I love
> > Eclipse. If only I could get it working on FreeBSD :-)
> 
> Since the java/eclipse port is working fine, I assume you want to use it
> with another JVM than java/jdk14? If so, and since this is something I
> was contemplating these days, under which JVM would you want to use it?
> Kaffe? GCJ? JC? JikesRVM?
> 
> --
> Panagiotis Astithas
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> 18 Evgenidou Street, 115 25, Athens GREECE
> Phone: +30 210 674 7631
> Fax: +30 210 674 7601
> http://www.ebs.gr
> 



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