Alexey Petrenko wrote: > Mark, > > I understand your concerns about static linking of the large number of > the libraries... We thought about this too... > > But we decided that for now it is the best way: we have to manage only > few libraries inside the Harmony deploy directory... Which is changing > its contents so often :)
I was holding my tongue on marks post - lets not waste too much time discussing the dependencies. Certainly for distributions, we'll bundle them in where appropriate (like a tarball), or not (like an rpm where the deps can be specified as part of the delivery system) > > Anyway it can be easily changed at any time. > > Another question about binary builds: Can we distribute third party > libraries in the binary form from the Apache site? > Geir? Tim? Yes as part of our snapshots, distro... geir > > 2006/6/8, Mark Hindess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> On 8 June 2006 at 8:34, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Mark Hindess wrote: >> > > On 8 June 2006 at 7:01, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> I'm +1 except I'd like to see us get to the point where we can >> > >> >> > >> - produce a full snapshot of classlib + VM (using DRLVM or JCHEVM or >> > >> whatever) >> > > >> > > I agree. I'd quite like to see a snapshot with a "free" vm and as >> much >> > > of the classlib as possible preferably awt/swing and mx4j (anyone >> looked >> > > at HARMONY-560? Comments?). >> > > >> > > If it is acceptable, I'd very much like to create some snapshots >> in the >> > > form of debian and rpm packages to see if we can encourage the masses >> > > to give Harmony a try. >> > >> > YEAH! >> > >> > > (At the moment I think these packages might >> > > be pretty fat since we don't do much to make use of locally installed >> > > packages for things like zlib, libpng, liblcms, etc. But I still >> think >> > > this (packaging) is worth doing and I'm prepared to work on >> trimming the >> > > fat later.) >> > >> > Cool - getting those started would be cool, and we just evolve them. >> > >> > How does it work "in real life"? Are there linux packaging 'czars' >> > that we might convince to start making these regularly available? >> >> When the time comes, I think we could find a Debian Developer sponsor >> without too much trouble but they are going to tell us to "go away" >> until we start behaving slightly more reasonably with respect to >> dependencies. That is, using what is already installed rather than >> including them. >> >> Not sure what the process is like for RPM-based packages but I'm sure >> they'll have the same issues about any "official" distribution packages. >> >> In the meantime, we could just host raw packages or (more work) create >> apt/yum repositories. I think we'll have to do it ourselves at least >> until we get a little closer to world domination. ;-) >> >> (Aside: I'm not criticising the choice to use static or >> download-and-build dependencies. This is a sound pragmatic choice at >> this stage. It's just not a good way to fit in when we want wider >> acceptance.) >> >> I have a few ideas for how we can start to do this better on Linux. >> I've no idea about Windows but I suspect the bar for what it acceptable >> is a little lower there. >> >> Regards, >> Mark. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
