A propos our discussion about A.D. and B.C. -- our colleagues at H-Judaic have
been conducting all week a very lively discussion re the use of the terms
Old Testament and New Testament, which, like A.D., are inaccurate,
non-objective, & Christain-centric.

Below are some of the comments.
LC Subject Authority Team, please take notice -- another revision is 
a-brewing...

Aviva Astrinsky
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Subject: Re: Referring to the New Testament in Jewish Studies (Seid)

We commonly refer to the "Hebrew Scriptures."  Why then, not the "Christian
Scriptures?" This clearly means that which was written by Christians and
avoids the problem of leaving the Jewish Bible out of the Christian 
Bible.  And it
doesn't give a faulty impression, the way "Greek Scriptures" might.

Judith Seid

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Hi all!  As one who teaches both Biblical History and NT, I use "New
Testament" and "Old Testament" to refer to the Christian canon, which
begins with Genesis and proceeds through Malachi to Matthew and on to
Revelation (and for Catholics and Greeks includes many more books than it
does for Jews and Protestants).  These are venerable and historically
meaningful terms for describing the Christian Bible.  When dealing with
the Bible that begins with Genesis and concludes (today) with Chronicles--
and the historical period to which it refers, I refer to "Hebrew
Scriptures," "TaNaKH" and "Miqra."

The problem with my teacher Prof. Sander's ecumenical neologism "First and
Second Testaments" is that it elides the canonical structure so central to
Christianity, while, for Jews, allowing the sense that there is more than
one "testament."  In trying to have it both ways, "First and Second
Testaments" does not express the experience of either Jews nor Christians.

Steven Fine,
Jewish Foundation Professor of Judaic Studies,
University of Cincinnati

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Rabbi Zalman Schachter-Shalomi has said, tongue in cheek, that he doesn't
mind talking about the "Old Testament" if the uniquely Christian
Scriptures are called the "Young Testament."

I don't recommend this as a solution to the classroom problems raised on
the list, but it may be an interesting consciousness-raising technique for
mature folks.

He also says, in regard to when/whether the Messiah has arrived: "When she
comes, we will ask her whether it's for the first or second time."

Now that has a couple of deeper lessons encoded in it. I've seen both Jews
and Christians laugh, blink, and get the point/s.

Rabbi Arthur Waskow
  The Shalom Center,




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