As long as you can include space in your "honest discussion" for those who
do not agree that there is an "occupation" when no agreement between the
parties on boundaries has ever been reached.  The technical term in this
case, and Israel is far from the only place in the world--there are dozens,
maybe over a hundred--that has border disputes.  I also don't think this is
the issue here: it is the constant singling out of Israel for sanctions and
opprobrium while much greater offenses and oppression are totally ignored
by the same people that draft such resolutions.  And, these same folks
would love to see those who oppose them arguing, an example of divide and
conquer.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:51 PM, HM Elnathan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yaffa,
>
> I understand your need to have your text approved but may I suggest that
> it is inaccurate, ineffective, and inelegant.
>
> Moreover, I don't think the AJL should submit anything to the ALA council
> that has the misused "signaling" in its text.
>
> In this case, as in many others, less will be more -- calling out others'
> misdeeds, short of those committed by the  ALA or indeed the USA, is a
> descent to the realm of unreasonableness and does not constitute good
> debate.
>
> All that is truly pertinent is that the ALA has no mandate to politicize
> its resolutions, especially when those fly in the face of the ALA's own
> Code of Ethics and otherwise accepted guidelines on intellectual freedom.
>
> I would also like to second Clare Kinberg's call to have an honest
> discussion regarding the occupation of another people which is an ongoing
> and unacceptable violation of human rights.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Dasi
> [email protected]
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday28Jan2015, at 9:29, Weisman, Yaffa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> First, I am encouraged by the outpour of support from AJL members, mostly
> unfamiliar to me, who stepped out of the shadows and made helpful
> suggestions. This is incredible, and I only regret having to spend so much
> energy on responding to bullies and detractors, instead of investing in
> programs.
> Second, I think it's time to stop perfecting the document - I put it
> together in a short time, incorporated some earlier amendments, and now I
> say, Dayeinu. Let's focus on reaching out to our allies at ALA and to its
> officers, as well as to friends outside ALA who can give us some good
> points.
> So to all of you who plan to attend the ALA Council meeting - thanks for
> putting yourselves in the line of fire. Sometimes just showing up is
> enough, sometimes pushing back is necessary.
> And finally, to all of you who responded with support and suggestions - I
> hope you plan to attend our conference in DC this year. If you do, please
> grab my proverbial buttohole and introduce yourselves. I can't wait to meet
> you
> thank you
> Dr. Yaffa Weisman, President
> AJL
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Elliot Gertel [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:00 AM
> *To:* Beth Dwoskin
> *Cc:* Weisman, Yaffa; Emily Bergman; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [ha-Safran] FW: ALA resolution boycotting companies
> working with IDF
>
> Yaffa,
>
> Do you approve of Beth's suggested edits.  They seem reasonable to me.
> Thanks, Beth, Yaffa, and all who have made constructive suggestions in thsi
> discussion.
>
> Elliot
>
> Elliot H. Gertel
> Irving M. Hermelin Curator of Judaica
> Curator (Interim), Jewish Heritage Collection
> The University of Michigan
> Area Programs
> 111-C Hatcher Graduate Library North
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1190
> Phone: 734-936-2367
> [email protected]
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Beth Dwoskin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> *I respectfully submit the following slight edits (in red):*
>>
>> The Association of Jewish Libraries is an international professional
>> organization that fosters access to information and research in all forms
>> of media relating to all things Jewish. The Association promotes Jewish
>> literacy and scholarship and provides a community for peer support and
>> professional development.
>> The AJL is an affiliate of ALA and stands firm in its opposition to any
>> attempt to politicize the ALA through bigoted and hateful targeting of the
>> State of Israel and its citizens, as well as opposing veiled threats
>> against any American company doing business in Israel. The AJL also
>> condemns the blatant censorship exercised by the Council by scheduling this
>> meeting on the Jewish Sabbath, thus effectively denying the rights of
>> observant Jewish members of ALA to participate in this discussion.
>> The AJL believes that the mantle of "broad social responsibilities," is
>> crucial to the spirit of ALA, and therefore should be applied responsibly
>> and equally to address issues such as religious freedom, genocide,
>> terrorism, and denial of equal rights and free speech to women and LGBT
>> citizens. Please note, the latter denial mentioned is the case in many
>> if not most Arab countries, *BUT NOT IN THE DEMOCRATIC STATE OF ISRAEL!*
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:59 PM, "Weisman, Yaffa" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Emily, and all who are partnering in the effort to end this "narishkeit"
>> (a.k.a. "foolishness") at this point:
>> Here is a statement I composed that I believe should be presented to the
>> ALA Council. Feel free to use it, replicate and distribute it as needed. I
>> will try to create & scan it on AJL stationary & send it around.
>> Thanks for doing it:
>>
>> THE ASSOCIATION OF JEWISH LIBRARIES' STATEMENT REGARDING THE PROPOSED
>> RESOLUTION
>> *"On ALA Divestment from Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola
>> Solutions"*
>>
>> The Association of Jewish Libraries is an international professional
>> organization that fosters access to information and research in all forms
>> of media relating to all things Jewish. The Association promotes Jewish
>> literacy and scholarship and provides a community for peer support and
>> professional development.
>> The AJL is an affiliate of ALA and stands firm in its opposition to any
>> attempt to politicize the ALA through bigoted and hateful targeting of the
>> State of Israel and its citizens, through  veiled threats against any
>> American company doing business in Israel. The AJL also condemns the
>> blatant censorship exercised by the Council by scheduling this meeting on
>> the Sabbath, thus effectively denying the rights of observant Jewish
>> members of ALA to participate in this discussion.
>> The AJL believes that the mantel of "broad social responsibilities," is
>> crucial to the spirit of ALA, and therefore should be applied responsibly
>> and equally to address issues such as religious freedom, genocide,
>> terrorism, denial of equal rights and free speech to women and LGBT
>> citizens- all practiced by many Arab countries *BUT NOT BY THE
>> DEMOCRATIC STATE OF ISRAEL!*
>>
>> AJL membership is a rainbow of political convictions vis-à-vis Israel,
>> but we firmly believe that Israel's right to exist is not debatable, and
>> that the work of our colleagues in Israel promotes professional
>> librarianship, literacy and innovation, coexistence and peace. We proudly
>>  stand by our tradition of pursuing justice and seeking peace, and
>> respectfully ask the Council to reject the divestment resolution before it.
>>
>> Dr. Yaffa Weisman, President,
>> And the Executive Board of the Association of Jewish Libraries.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Emily Bergman [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:03 PM
>> *To:* Weisman, Yaffa
>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [ha-Safran] FW: ALA resolution boycotting companies
>> working with IDF
>>
>> I am on ALA Council and I did see the original resolution.  I have been
>> looking for information, especially what to get up and say at the Council
>> meeting when it comes up.  I appreciate these documents, and if there's
>> anything you think I should add, please send it to me ASAP.  I leave for
>> ALA Midwinter tomorrow.  I'll do my best to speak for Jews and Jewish
>> librarians on this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Emily Bergman
>> Library Committee Chair
>> Temple Sinai
>> Glendale, CA
>> [email protected]
>>
>> Emily Bergman
>> Head, Gerontology Library
>> Psychology Librarian
>> University of Southern California
>> Voice: 213-740-3855
>> Fax: 213-740-3854
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Weisman, Yaffa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> This was sent to me from Elhanan Adler via Yaniv Levi of NLI. Both the
>> pending resolution and the case against it are attached. So it is a real
>> attempt in real time.
>> Elliot  & Shoshana, and any other AJL member who has a voice in ALA  - is
>> it too late to submit an AJL sponsored statement to ALA's Council? How does
>> one do it? I can write a short one but I need to know which ALA body has
>> the authority to publish it.
>> This is not new(s) and I suggest we highlight the hypocrisy of signaling
>> out of Israel as opposed to countries and terrorist organizations who
>> commit genocide & war crimes (Nigeria, Hamas, Sudan, etc.), and using
>> anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism to politicize a professional organization.
>> We should also mention that scheduling such meetings on the Sabbath is
>> offensive to Jewish members of ALA and is a de-facto act of censorship.
>> AJL membership is a rainbow of political convictions vis-à-vis Israel
>> (Thank God!), but I am sure we can all agree that Israel's right to exist
>> is not debatable, and that the work of our colleagues in Israel promotes
>> coexistence and peace and shouldn't be reviled and railroaded by ALA.
>>
>> yaffa
>>
>>
>> *From:* Yaniv Levi [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:42 AM
>> *To:* Weisman, Yaffa
>> *Cc:* Oren Weinberg; Elhanan
>> *Subject:* ALA resolution boycotting companies working with IDF
>>
>> Dear Yaffa,
>>
>> I have received you mail from Elhanan Adler, who proposed that you might
>> assist.
>>
>> It was brought to our attention that in the coming ALA (winter) the
>> attached resolution would be adopted by ALA council.
>>
>> 1.       Are you aware of this initiative? I found no mentioning of such
>> resolution, and I don't know if this is a real thing or not.
>>
>> 2.       Does ALA take such resolution and if so in what forum?
>>
>> 3.       If so, how can we help prevent such resolution? Who can help?
>> What is required?
>>
>> 4.        Can AJL assist in such effort?
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Yaniv
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.jpg> <http://www.nli.org.il/> *Yaniv Levi-Korem  *  |Head of
>> Technical Services
>> Mobile: +972-52-860-0747
>> Tel.:  +972-74-733-6230
>> The National Library of Israel, Jerusalem
>> *[email protected] <[email protected]>  **|*  *www.nli.org.il*
>> <http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/English/Pages/default.aspx>
>> <image002.png> <http://www.facebook.com/NationalLibraryIsrael>
>> <image003.png> <http://www.youtube.com/user/NLI2010/featured>
>> <image004.png> <http://instagram.com/nli_israel>  <image005.png>
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/64126959@N03/collections/>
>>
>>
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