On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 09:21:08AM -0600, Jonathan Geddes wrote: > I agree that the Raison d'être for a .NET or JVM backend is interop. > Perhaps that's not worth the effort of an entirely new backend. JavaScript > is a different beast, however. I said before: > > >From my point of view, languages that cannot run on one of the 3 > > aforementioned platforms will become irrelevant. (with the exception of > C, > > of course). > > I'll take that one step further and say that for web applications it is > becoming increasingly difficult to justify using a language that WILL NOT > run both client and server. JavaScript (with NodeJS), Clojure (with > ClojureScript), and Dart are just a few examples. > > I really believe that with a solid JavaScript backend, Haskell would be an > ideal web application language. Am I alone in that belief? What can I do to > get the ball rolling on that?
I should point out that the ball already IS rolling -- ranging from EDSLs that compile to JavaScript [1,2] to macro systems [3] to more serious full-featured efforts [4,5]. There's even a wiki page listing all these and more [6]. The yesod developers share your view that Haskell would benefit from some sort of JavaScript backend; see [7] as well as the ensuing discussion on Reddit [8]. See also Elm [9], which compiles to HTML+CSS+JavaScript and has some Haskell integration [10]. Rather than trying to start yet another effort, what about contributing to one of these ongoing ones? -Brent [1] http://www.ittc.ku.edu/csdlblog/?p=88 [2] http://www.ittc.ku.edu/csdl/fpg/node/125 [3] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/JMacro [4] http://uu-computerscience.github.com/uhc-js/ [5] https://github.com/ghcjs/ghcjs [6] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/The_JavaScript_Problem [7] http://www.yesodweb.com/blog/2012/04/client-side [8] http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/sm72n/client_side_yesod_an_frpinspired_approach/ [9] http://elm-lang.org/ [10] http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/uugne/announcing_elm_02_haskell_integration_yesod/ _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list [email protected] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
