On Mon, 2007-18-06 at 00:55 +0200, Chaddaï Fouché wrote:

> >  Got a file chooser that's actually a GUI that has the look and feel of 
> > every other GUI file
> > chooser in existence?



> Strange... Here I have the same file chooser as every other
> application in the WM (personally I use C-x C-f most of the time since
> with the completion it's faster if you know what you want to load),
> what are you speaking about ? (Are you really using emacs and not
> xemacs ?)


I'm using Emacs.  It gives me a text window, like any other editor
window (except where it's different) when I go to the horribly kludgy,
not-at-all-integrated-with-the-desktop-theme file menu.  In fact it's
even worse.  I go File->Open File... and it gives me ... a prompt in a
little command window at the bottom of the editing screen asking me for
the file name.  If I hit Enter, it displays the contents of my home
directory in an editing window.  I can right-click on a directory there
to open the directory -- in a new window.  (I have to select by cursor
and hit enter to open said directory in the same window.)

I installed Xemacs too and ran it once.  It had the same ugly fonts and
the same ugly menuing interface.  I'll confess, however, that I didn't
bother trying to open a file with it.  Let me do that now.
.
.
.
OK, this one has an actual dialogue box for opening files.  It isn't the
GNOME standard file opening widget, but it is at least a GUI.  It's just
a really crappy one.

And that's just one misfeature of Emacs.  Here's another (again only
Emacs-specific; Xemacs does it just fine) problem.  I open up a huge
file in Emacs.  I use my scroll wheel to work through it.  Nothing.  For
all Emacs cares, I may as well have an Apple one-button mouse connected
to my computer.  Oh.  Sorry.  Two-button.  Because almost everything
seems to be attached to right-clicks.  Left-clicks do little to nothing.
It doesn't seem to know about middle buttons, scroll wheels or any other
modern feature of computers made within, say, the last five years or so.


> > working (aside from horrible, ugly, unreadable fonts -- again the Notepad 
> > of the GNOME
> > world is kicking ass and taking names here!)
> 
> The Notepad of the GNOME world ? You're speaking about Gedit ? What
> have gedit to do with emacs ?


It, unlike Emacs, opens files using a standard file open dialogue
box....


> Beside you can activate cleartype support for emacs now, and have
> nicely antialiased fonts.


Wouldn't it be nice if this feature were a) active by default or, at
least, b) available somewhere on the menus?  I can find nothing in the
GUI (of either *macs) that lets me specify fonts.  Everything's a
paper-thin wrapper around arcane config files with little to no
documentation available at hand formatted using any cross-application
(and even cross-platform!) standard.

-- 
Michael T. Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (GoogleTalk:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works
and you don't know why. (Hermann Hesse)

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