Hi all,

Georg Martius wrote:

> I have some proposals for changes of the hierarchical module system as
> it is at the moment.
> [...]
> The hierarchical name can be derived from the place in the filesystem.

This is not a comment about the above proposal in itself, which arguably has its merits, but rather a meta comment.

I get very anxious whenever I see "the file system" being mentioned
in the context of a *language* specification (as opposed to, say,
a specification of standard language libraries for interfacing with
file systems).

Some reasons:
* File systems have all kinds of quirks one would rather not deal with
  in a language spec.
* File systems can differ radically between different operating systems.
  In fact, even within an OS, as OS's these days tend to support many
  file systems simultaneously.
* A valid module names in a language is not necessarily the same
  as a valid file name. (Yes, bijective mappings could be defined,
  but they would only be valid for a specific set of file systems.)
* Even if we assume that the notion of a hierachical module name space
  always can be mapped to a corresponding file hierarchy in a simple
  way, why should that assumption be made in a language specification?

  In my opinion it is the task of the programming environment to locate
  the source files and interfaces that make up a semantically meaningful
  unit, and that semantics should be completely independent of where
  the different pieces happen to be stored.

I'm already somewhat unhappy about the way most present Haskell tools
map module names to path names (I'd generally prefer to have the
possibility to flatten my file hierarchies by, say, using dots in
my file names), but at least these assumptions are not in the Haskell
98 language definition.

So, please, to the extent possible, let's keep the file system
out of the Haskell' definition!

All the best,

/Henrik

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Henrik Nilsson
School of Computer Science and Information Technology
The University of Nottingham
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