On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:15:23PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote:
> On 2008-01-15, at 10:03, David Cantrell wrote:
> >Then stop calling them version NUMBERS.
> >While you, and other people, continue to do so, then people will  
> >assume that "hey, it's a number" and "I can do numbery things with  
> >it".
> If a programmer thinks that just because something's a number that  
> means you can do "numbery things" with it, they need remedial training.

Given that it's a *version* *number*, adding them, multiplying them, and
so on, obviously aren't useful.  But comparing them clearly is useful.
If you think that I need "remedial training" because I think that
comparing 1.03 and 1.02 might be useful - well, then let's just say that
I have a different view of who needs remedial training.  What you need
remedial training in though, I'm not sure.

> Neither in mathematics nor in programming are numbers "just numbers"  
> in the colloquial sense of "number" as a linguist might use the  
> term... though I suspect that there's a linguistic use of the word  
> "number" as well. In programming, neither integers nor floating point  
> numbers are well-ordered in all circumstances. In mathematics, many  
> numbers are not well-ordered in ANY circumstances. In particular, you  
> have to define an ordering on n-tuples.

Now you're being ridiculous.  You might use version numbers larger than
MAXINT, but thankfully normal people don't.

> >>>                                  "Yeah, that's nice and all, but
> >>>wouldn't it be great if nothing made any fucking sense and I took a
> >>>whiz all
> >>>over your UNIVERSAL methods?  Yeah.  Open wider and stop gaggig,
> >>>bitch."
> >>Where "universal methods" means "a hateful bloody stupid idea that
> >>pretty much only Perl actually uses".
> >Wrong. [snip explanation]
> OK, let's pretend for a minute that I wasn't aware that "universal  
> method" was a technical term in Perl.

I assumed that you commented on it because you thought you had a clue
what you were talking about.

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David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

PERL: Politely Expressed Racoon Love

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