+1

I think when we are ready, we should publish the replication as a
contrib up on github. I really like github, its way better than any
other system I've seen (in part due to git of course).

I do like the notion of officially released contribs that are included
at specific version numbers with the hbase release. Hbase core 0.21.0
with TH, ITH at version 0.1 or whatever.

-ryan

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> I'd like to start a discussion on moving src/contrib out of hbase.
> Keep reading if you have an opinion.
>
> I'd like to suggest that we undo the notion of hbase contribs for the
> following reasons:
>
> + In my experience, they present a friction on changes to core as any
> significant core change tends to ripple down into the contribs whether
> its code or infrastructure/build changes.  Usually what happens then
> is a non-expert in the contrib code is making edits -- often radical
> -- to code they are not completely up on and are a little frustrated
> that they have to do it.  Bad.
> + A few of our contribs are maintained by non-committers.  This means
> it takes a committers time getting in updates.  The owner is at mercy
> of the committer making wanted changes.  The committer is consumed
> reviewing and making update.  This indirection hurts at both ends (We
> could discuss making contrib owners committers on their contrib only
> but that'd be a bit of bureaucratic nightmare and a burden on the
> hadoop pmc to vote on granting access to a subprojects, contrib.  Its
> tough enough getting hadoop pmc to vote on hbase committers.  There is
> no precedent in other project, to my knowledge).
> + Contribs and core evolve at different rates.  They should not be
> constrained by core release schedule (or the opposite, core should not
> be held up because fixes in contrib are wanting).
>
> I suggest that current contribs be moved out of hbase up to standalone
> github or google code projects (witness how hbql does it).  Previous
> to our move to Ivy (and possibly soon, Maven), asking contribs be
> standalone was a pain as they'd have to check in hbase jars and all of
> dependencies and then move these forward over time.  Now that we are
> Ivy-ized, contribs just need write a bit of ivy.xml and it'll take
> care of pulling dependencies.
>
> I'd imagine support for contribs would go on as it does now with
> queries up on hbase mailing list and help out on IRC.  We'd give
> contribs first-class billing up on home page.  Popular contribs might
> run their own mailing lists, etc...
>
> We should chat but some contribs should be pulled up into core.
> Thrift was core.  Talk was to move current thrift update out to
> contrib.  I think now it should just stay in core.  Stargate perhaps
> should come up into core?
>
> What do folks think?
> St.Ack
>
> P.S. I've fostered the contrib notion in the past.  I've since had a
> change of heart.  Please pardon my flip.
>

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