Woops! Old thread :) On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Bradford Stephens < bradfordsteph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My $0.02 is that whatever gets more attention, so you can get more good > committers and patches, is what's best :) > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Gray <jg...@facebook.com> >> wrote: >> > Annoyance has really not gotten us anywhere. And I don't think it >> matters to those in Hadoop whether we are a TLP or SP, they will not (or >> should not) be offended if we break off. Do you think they would take us >> (or our patches) less seriously if we were a TLP? >> > >> >> No. >> >> > What has pushed things forward is continuing to make HBase better so >> that more people want to use it. A larger community and involvement from >> larger companies will help push Hadoop changes aimed at HBase, especially >> when those companies are Hadoop contributors. >> > >> >> Agreed. >> >> >> > If we do think we can get some HBase committers onto the Hadoop PMC, and >> we think that this will make a material difference in outcomes for us, then >> my opinion may change. Today I don't really think the issue is whether we >> are on the Hadoop PMC or not... my understanding is that big decisions are >> not voted on for a majority, if someone votes against it then it is tabled. >> > >> >> The quoted rule where long-time Hadoop subproject committers become >> Hadoop PMC members may not actually hold. Or, to put it a another >> way, efforts at trying to take advantage of this rule have run into >> resistance, understandably so -- as in, how does hbase expertise >> entitle a committer to hdfs commit rights? -- and I do not intend to >> push it further. >> >> So, that leaves the Jay Booth "stay and be annoying -- in a good way" >> opinion, outstanding as a reason not to move. My current thought on >> this is that the work involved will be the same regardless -- i.e. the >> patch making, JIRA bashing, and consensus building -- whether we're >> under the hadoop umbrella or up on a TLP perch. >> >> St.Ack >> > > > > -- > Bradford Stephens, > Founder, Drawn to Scale > drawntoscalehq.com > 727.697.7528 > > http://www.drawntoscalehq.com -- The intuitive, cloud-scale data > solution. Process, store, query, search, and serve all your data. > > http://www.roadtofailure.com -- The Fringes of Scalability, Social Media, > and Computer Science > > -- Bradford Stephens, Founder, Drawn to Scale drawntoscalehq.com 727.697.7528 http://www.drawntoscalehq.com -- The intuitive, cloud-scale data solution. Process, store, query, search, and serve all your data. http://www.roadtofailure.com -- The Fringes of Scalability, Social Media, and Computer Science