I justread through all the hcoop-sysadmin archives as well as linked wiki pages 
and I noticed a question about quotas on mailman lists.

I believe it is possible to store mailman data directly in AFS.  I posted to 
openafs-info for more information on this, but I belive that openafs.org is 
already hosting mailman lists in AFS as per the volume list on there servers:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] C:\>vos listvol GRAND-OPENING.MIT.EDU -no
Total number of volumes on server GRAND-OPENING.MIT.EDU partition /vicepa: 303
a.mailman                         536871082 RW       1693 K On-line
a.mailman.backup                  536871084 BK       1698 K On-line
a.mailman.readonly                536871083 RO       1754 K On-line
[snip]
a.mb.openafs-announce             536870966 RW        845 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-announce.backup      536870968 BK        845 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-announce.readonly    536870967 RO        591 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-celladm              536871050 RW         75 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-celladm.backup       536871052 BK         75 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-celladm.readonly     536871051 RO         75 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-cvs                  536870972 RW      33995 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-cvs.backup           536870974 BK      33988 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-cvs.readonly         536870973 RO      24330 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-devel                536870978 RW      48859 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-devel.backup         536870980 BK      48856 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-devel.readonly       536870979 RO      43133 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-doc                  536871288 RW        510 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-doc.backup           536871290 BK        510 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-doc.readonly         536871289 RO        504 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-elders               536870984 RW       8570 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-elders.backup        536870986 BK       8570 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-elders.readonly      536870985 RO       4989 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-gk                   536871044 RW      14140 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-gk.backup            536871046 BK      14090 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-gk.readonly          536871045 RO       6381 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-info                 536870990 RW      96735 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-info.backup          536870992 BK      96707 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-info.readonly        536870991 RO      79866 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-listmgr              536870996 RW          2 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-listmgr.backup       536870998 BK          2 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-listmgr.readonly     536870997 RO          2 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-testers              536871002 RW        589 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-testers.backup       536871004 BK        589 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-testers.readonly     536871003 RO        589 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-w32-devel            536871291 RW       3322 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-w32-devel.backup     536871293 BK       3322 K On-line
a.mb.openafs-w32-devel.readonly   536871292 RO       2989 K On-line
[snip]
a.ml.openafs-announce             536870963 RW       2717 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-announce.backup      536870965 BK       2717 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-announce.readonly    536870964 RO       1959 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-celladm              536871047 RW        330 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-celladm.backup       536871049 BK        330 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-celladm.readonly     536871048 RO        330 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-cvs                  536870969 RW     121125 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-cvs.backup           536870971 BK     121103 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-cvs.readonly         536870970 RO      94143 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-devel                536870975 RW     206546 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-devel.backup         536870977 BK     206539 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-devel.readonly       536870976 RO     189868 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-doc                  536871285 RW       1580 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-doc.backup           536871287 BK       1580 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-doc.readonly         536871286 RO       1548 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-elders               536870981 RW      29855 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-elders.backup        536870983 BK      29855 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-elders.readonly      536870982 RO      17600 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-gk                   536871041 RW      50480 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-gk.backup            536871043 BK      50313 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-gk.readonly          536871042 RO      23083 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-info                 536870987 RW     308147 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-info.backup          536870989 BK     308070 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-info.readonly        536870988 RO     258528 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-listmgr              536870993 RW          2 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-listmgr.backup       536870995 BK          2 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-listmgr.readonly     536870994 RO          2 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-testers              536870999 RW       2193 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-testers.backup       536871001 BK       2193 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-testers.readonly     536871000 RO       2193 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-w32-devel            536871294 RW      11137 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-w32-devel.backup     536871296 BK      11137 K On-line
a.ml.openafs-w32-devel.readonly   536871295 RO       9963 K On-line

It would also seem that the mbox file and the generated HTML are stored in 
different volumes, probably for ease of management or backup purposes, as there 
the HTML can always be regenerated from the MBOX file.

I don't know what changes are needed to get Debian's mailman package to get it 
use /afs paths, but I highly suggest that this be setup before things are 
migrated.  It will be much easier long-term if as much as possible can run out 
of AFS.

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