For the record, the AFS guys replied and said that the data in these 
volumes is only copies and that they run things from the local 
filesystem.

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Christopher D. Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I justread through all the hcoop-sysadmin archives as well as linked
> wiki pages and I noticed a question about quotas on mailman lists.
>
> I believe it is possible to store mailman data directly in AFS.  I
> posted to openafs-info for more information on this, but I belive
> that openafs.org is already hosting mailman lists in AFS as per the
> volume list on there servers:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] C:\>vos listvol GRAND-OPENING.MIT.EDU -no
> Total number of volumes on server GRAND-OPENING.MIT.EDU partition
> /vicepa: 303
> a.mailman                         536871082 RW       1693 K On-line
> a.mailman.backup                  536871084 BK       1698 K On-line
> a.mailman.readonly                536871083 RO       1754 K On-line
> [snip]
> a.mb.openafs-announce             536870966 RW        845 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-announce.backup      536870968 BK        845 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-announce.readonly    536870967 RO        591 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-celladm              536871050 RW         75 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-celladm.backup       536871052 BK         75 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-celladm.readonly     536871051 RO         75 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-cvs                  536870972 RW      33995 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-cvs.backup           536870974 BK      33988 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-cvs.readonly         536870973 RO      24330 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-devel                536870978 RW      48859 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-devel.backup         536870980 BK      48856 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-devel.readonly       536870979 RO      43133 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-doc                  536871288 RW        510 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-doc.backup           536871290 BK        510 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-doc.readonly         536871289 RO        504 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-elders               536870984 RW       8570 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-elders.backup        536870986 BK       8570 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-elders.readonly      536870985 RO       4989 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-gk                   536871044 RW      14140 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-gk.backup            536871046 BK      14090 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-gk.readonly          536871045 RO       6381 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-info                 536870990 RW      96735 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-info.backup          536870992 BK      96707 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-info.readonly        536870991 RO      79866 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-listmgr              536870996 RW          2 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-listmgr.backup       536870998 BK          2 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-listmgr.readonly     536870997 RO          2 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-testers              536871002 RW        589 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-testers.backup       536871004 BK        589 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-testers.readonly     536871003 RO        589 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-w32-devel            536871291 RW       3322 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-w32-devel.backup     536871293 BK       3322 K On-line
> a.mb.openafs-w32-devel.readonly   536871292 RO       2989 K On-line
> [snip]
> a.ml.openafs-announce             536870963 RW       2717 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-announce.backup      536870965 BK       2717 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-announce.readonly    536870964 RO       1959 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-celladm              536871047 RW        330 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-celladm.backup       536871049 BK        330 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-celladm.readonly     536871048 RO        330 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-cvs                  536870969 RW     121125 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-cvs.backup           536870971 BK     121103 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-cvs.readonly         536870970 RO      94143 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-devel                536870975 RW     206546 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-devel.backup         536870977 BK     206539 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-devel.readonly       536870976 RO     189868 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-doc                  536871285 RW       1580 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-doc.backup           536871287 BK       1580 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-doc.readonly         536871286 RO       1548 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-elders               536870981 RW      29855 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-elders.backup        536870983 BK      29855 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-elders.readonly      536870982 RO      17600 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-gk                   536871041 RW      50480 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-gk.backup            536871043 BK      50313 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-gk.readonly          536871042 RO      23083 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-info                 536870987 RW     308147 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-info.backup          536870989 BK     308070 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-info.readonly        536870988 RO     258528 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-listmgr              536870993 RW          2 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-listmgr.backup       536870995 BK          2 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-listmgr.readonly     536870994 RO          2 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-testers              536870999 RW       2193 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-testers.backup       536871001 BK       2193 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-testers.readonly     536871000 RO       2193 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-w32-devel            536871294 RW      11137 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-w32-devel.backup     536871296 BK      11137 K On-line
> a.ml.openafs-w32-devel.readonly   536871295 RO       9963 K On-line
>
> It would also seem that the mbox file and the generated HTML are
> stored in different volumes, probably for ease of management or
> backup purposes, as there the HTML can always be regenerated from the
> MBOX file.
>
> I don't know what changes are needed to get Debian's mailman package
> to get it use /afs paths, but I highly suggest that this be setup
> before things are migrated.  It will be much easier long-term if as
> much as possible can run out of AFS. 



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