+1 for putting 2.9 release lines to EOL. Thanks, Hexiaoqiao
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:14 PM Mingliang Liu <lium...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for putting 2.9 lines to EOL. > > Let's focus on 2.10 releases for Hadoop 2. Also is there any plan for > 2.10.1? It has been 11 months since 2.10 first release. > > Thanks, > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:57 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Bump up this thread after 6 months. > > > > Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to > start > > the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018. > > > > I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release lines > and > > make more frequent releases in each line. > > > > Thanks, > > Weichiu > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > I think that's a great suggestion. > > > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor > > release > > > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the > > > previous one. > > > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. Having > a > > > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should help > > with > > > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much > > easier, > > > which is currently a pain) > > > > > > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS v.s. > > > non-LTS is one suggestion. > > > > > > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to > > > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as more > > CVEs > > > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc. > > > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. More > > > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to > > update > > > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this change? > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <i...@google.com.invalid> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and support > > >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support them > > for > > >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other > non-LTS > > >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). This > > >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and provide > > >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for new > > LTS > > >> release and upgrading to it. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco < > > rupert.mazzu...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I > vote > > >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line. > > >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x easily > if > > >>> they feel like upgrading at all, > > >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning. > > >>> > > >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there 3.1.x > > and > > >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing, > > >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to > > >>> manage multiple release lines, > > >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers > > >>> Rupert > > >>> > > >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang > > >>> <weic...@cloudera.com.invalid>: > > >>> > > >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to the > > user > > >>>> mailing lists. > > >>>> > > >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop 2.9. > > >>>> Please share your thoughts. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi > > >>>> <sree_at_ch...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> +1 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang< > weic...@apache.org > > > > > >>>>> wrote: Hi, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start a > > >>>>> discussion > > >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the word > > "end > > >>>>> of > > >>>>> life" but consider these facts: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017. > > >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which is > more > > >>>>> than > > >>>>> 15 months ago. > > >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager for > > 2.9.3. > > >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using > Hadoop > > >>>>> 2.10 > > >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x. > > >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple > release > > >>>>> line, > > >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in Hadoop > > >>>>> 2.x, and > > >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thoughts? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > > > -- > L >
