+1 for EOL of 2.9. On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:17 PM Sunil Govindan <sun...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 > > Thanks > Sunil > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:49 PM Xiaoqiao He <xq.he2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > +1 for putting 2.9 release lines to EOL. > > > > Thanks, > > Hexiaoqiao > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:14 PM Mingliang Liu <lium...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> +1 for putting 2.9 lines to EOL. > >> > >> Let's focus on 2.10 releases for Hadoop 2. Also is there any plan for > >> 2.10.1? It has been 11 months since 2.10 first release. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:57 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Bump up this thread after 6 months. > >> > > >> > Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to > >> start > >> > the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018. > >> > > >> > I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release > lines > >> and > >> > make more frequent releases in each line. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Weichiu > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weic...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I think that's a great suggestion. > >> > > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor > >> > release > >> > > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the > >> > > previous one. > >> > > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. > >> Having a > >> > > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should > help > >> > with > >> > > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much > >> > easier, > >> > > which is currently a pain) > >> > > > >> > > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS > >> v.s. > >> > > non-LTS is one suggestion. > >> > > > >> > > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to > >> > > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as > more > >> > CVEs > >> > > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc. > >> > > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. > More > >> > > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to > >> > update > >> > > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this > >> change? > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <i...@google.com.invalid > > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and > support > >> > >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support > >> them > >> > for > >> > >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other > >> non-LTS > >> > >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). > This > >> > >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and > >> provide > >> > >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for > new > >> > LTS > >> > >> release and upgrading to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco < > >> > rupert.mazzu...@gmail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I > >> vote > >> > >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line. > >> > >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x > easily > >> if > >> > >>> they feel like upgrading at all, > >> > >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there > 3.1.x > >> > and > >> > >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing, > >> > >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to > >> > >>> manage multiple release lines, > >> > >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Cheers > >> > >>> Rupert > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang > >> > >>> <weic...@cloudera.com.invalid>: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to > the > >> > user > >> > >>>> mailing lists. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop > 2.9. > >> > >>>> Please share your thoughts. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi > >> > >>>> <sree_at_ch...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> +1 > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang< > >> weic...@apache.org > >> > > > >> > >>>>> wrote: Hi, > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start a > >> > >>>>> discussion > >> > >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the > word > >> > "end > >> > >>>>> of > >> > >>>>> life" but consider these facts: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017. > >> > >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which is > >> more > >> > >>>>> than > >> > >>>>> 15 months ago. > >> > >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager for > >> > 2.9.3. > >> > >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using > >> Hadoop > >> > >>>>> 2.10 > >> > >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x. > >> > >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple > >> release > >> > >>>>> line, > >> > >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in > Hadoop > >> > >>>>> 2.x, and > >> > >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Thoughts? > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> L > >> > > >
