Yes, it should be more widely available than the Princeton site.
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: "Dickel, Geraldine" <[email protected]> Date: 6/30/16 11:58 PM (GMT+02:00) To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט Would it be a good idea to create a list of Romanization FAQs as a document in the AJL Cataloging wiki? That way more than one person could edit it as needed and it wouldn’t be dependent on a particular person who might leave or retire. I could get it started by taking the information from the Princeton site and putting it into a table in a Word document, which could then be posted on the wiki. One problem is that the E-Sh. that I have is 1985, so I do not have the most current updates. What do folks think? Jerry Anne (I’ll be off work until Tuesday July 5) From: Heb-naco [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rachel Simon Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:40 AM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט I’ll be happy to update the list, but will have to find someone in Princeton who can do it: I gave the list to someone who has left long ago, and the systems have changed considerably since. So, don’t hold your breath. Rachel From: Heb-naco [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:22 AM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט Thank you so much for weighing in, Joan! Ki-me'at it is. (LC, please take note…) With a hat-tip to Rachel Simon, there is such a list of Romanization FAQ’s<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__library.princeton.edu_departments_tsd_katmandu_hebrew_roman_errors.html&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4dd_PgOXYx-hkFEruxwy7P-fnGTt986sp4bwD723Yyw&m=SlC0nL5KBCfc5gZ7X0nQunL8qF2SIW4T9xU9TuroqX4&s=DTsNrwY94KS4z3iRj4SE_yvWUpJNzFadQRQVXFJ5VtM&e=> (it’s now also linked on the wiki), but it does need to be updated to reflect the latest E-Sh. (specifically, מעין, which as of the 2012 update is now ma'ayan). Rachel, would you please consider adding ki-me'at to the list? Jasmin From: Heb-naco [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Biella Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:03 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט If you can find the word by looking under both K and M, then you romanize according to the "more analytical" interpretation--ki-me'at in this case--so that a search under "me'at" will discover the phrase. The same words cause trouble over and over. Perhaps we should have a list of "words frequently misromanized," which of course would have to be checked and re-checked whenever a new Even-Shoshan edition comes out! This might give some romanizers added confidence ... but I realize others would never think to consult the list. Joan On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If anything, it’s a sheva ha-merahef (לעניות דעתי), but that doesn’t address the question of whether or not the כ is here as a “little word”. From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino<mailto:heb-naco-bounces%2Bjshino>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:07 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט Okay - I have to consult גדולים וחכמים ממני if it is a שווא נע or a שווא נח I guess if it is a שווא נח then it will be Kim'at and not Ki-me'at Yossi Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger E-Mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Tel.: (614) 292-3362<tel:%28614%29%20292-3362>, Fax: (614)292-1918<tel:%28614%29292-1918> Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__go.osu.edu_hebrewlit&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4dd_PgOXYx-hkFEruxwy7P-fnGTt986sp4bwD723Yyw&m=SlC0nL5KBCfc5gZ7X0nQunL8qF2SIW4T9xU9TuroqX4&s=_DCGZdQzhbtZhQO2wTtjDdJgsiWkNuh79ZL0fTQlFT4&e=> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agree, but most of the entries in LC since 2012 have kim’at. Hence the question. From: Heb-naco [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 5:53 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט So the question is: Should it be Ki-me'at, or Kime'at? I think it should be Ki-me'at - the entry in E.Sh. under מעט is much more elaborate then half the line under כמעט (The same is also in the מילון אריאל המקיף of 2007) Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger E-Mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Tel.: (614) 292-3362<tel:%28614%29%20292-3362>, Fax: (614)292-1918<tel:%28614%29292-1918> Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__go.osu.edu_hebrewlit&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4dd_PgOXYx-hkFEruxwy7P-fnGTt986sp4bwD723Yyw&m=SlC0nL5KBCfc5gZ7X0nQunL8qF2SIW4T9xU9TuroqX4&s=_DCGZdQzhbtZhQO2wTtjDdJgsiWkNuh79ZL0fTQlFT4&e=> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: E-Sh. now has an entry for the word as itself, though it maintains a “see” reference to מעט. Do we consider this to be a changed Romanization? If so, I’ll add it to the chart on the wiki. 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