It's helpful to know that one has the option of using judgement in a 670, but I was talking about 642s in SARs.
B On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:49 PM Heidi G Lerner <ler...@stanford.edu> wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Certainly abbreviations may be used in 670s in LCNAF; it is cataloger's > discrection on whether or not to use them (unless you are transcribing data > cited from a resource; see NACO Participant's manual > > It says "abbreviations MAY" be used on p. 74, 79, 105 > > Best, Heidi > > Heidi G. Lerner > > Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica > > Metadata Dept. > > Stanford University Libraries > > Stanford, CA 94305-6004 > > ph: 650-725-9953 > > fax: 650-725-1120 > > e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Robert M. > TALBOTT via Heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:51 PM > *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and > Yiddish abbreviations) > > Folks: > > So far as I know, abbreviations are still used for 642s in authorities. > Correct me if I'm wrong. > > Bob > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:13 PM Rita Lifton via Heb-naco < > heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > As they appear in the resource. > > > > Rita Lifton > > Cataloger > > Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary > > > > *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+rilifton=jtsa....@lists.osu.edu> *On > Behalf Of *Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:11 AM > *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> > *Subject:* [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish > abbreviations) > > > > Dear all, > > > > See below. What do you think about Ahava's question? My impression is that > we are not replacing terms on a resource by abbreviations under RDA > (certainly not at Maryland). > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Neil > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Ahava Cohen* <ahava.co...@nli.org.il> > Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM > Subject: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations) > To: a...@loc.gov <a...@loc.gov>, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <nf...@umd.edu> > > > > Shalom, > > > > As the RDA Steering Committee finishes up work on 3R, they've been > discussing the appendices in the current Toolkit. I've asked, and been > granted permission, to have the largest Hebraica cataloging policy bodies > (AJL, LC, and NLI) make a recommendation about the fate of the Hebrew and > Yiddish abbreviation appendix. > > > > The Latin script abbreviations are all for recorded elements. So the > question about our appendix is: > > *Are the abbreviations specified used in recorded elements or do they > belong to transcribed elements?* > > > > If we're talking recorded elements – things that you consistently change > from what's on the resource (as we used to change edition statements to ed. > or מהד'), the appendix needs to stay. If all the terms are found in > transcribed elements, those we copy from the resource, then the list more > properly belongs as a resource in the AJL documentation than as a mandate > in the Toolkit. In Israel we don't use any of these terms in recorded > elements. > > > > Here's the list: > > > > > > Do you know of cataloging agencies which would replace the term used on a > resource with the abbreviation when creating a record? > > > > Kol tuv, > > > > - Ahava > > > > > > <http://www.nli.org.il/> > > > > *Dr. Ahava Cohen * |Head > > Hebrew Catalogue Department > > Mobile: +972-54-549-3644 > > Tel.: +972-74-733-6231 > > The National Library of Israel, Jerusalem > > *ahava.co...@nli.org.il <ahava.co...@nli.org.il> **|* *www.nli.org.il* > <http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/English/Pages/default.aspx> > > <http://www.facebook.com/NationalLibraryIsrael> > <http://www.youtube.com/user/NLI2010/featured> > <http://instagram.com/nli_israel> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/64126959@N03/collections/> > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. *(he, him, his) > > *Senior Catalog Librarian* > > *Supervisor for Non-Roman and Special Collections Cataloging* > > > > University of Maryland > > 2200 McKeldin Library > > College Park, MD 20742 > > Phone (301) 405-9337 > > nf...@umd.edu > > ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405 > > > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco > > > > -- > Bob Talbott > > Hebraica cataloger > > UC Berkeley > > 250 Moffitt > > Berkeley, CA 94720 > > If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts. > If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants > -- Bob Talbott Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts. If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants
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