August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On tor, 2005-02-24 at 00:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and >> > menubar? I have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the >> > `--with-x-toolkit' option, but it doesn't work. >> >> It wouldn't. You need a developer version of Emacs to compile for >> GTK. > > I assume you mean Emacs CVS. As GTK has been around for quite some > time it's strange that the standard release still has no support for > it.
The code base forming the last release was released as 21.1 in 2001. Since then, only bug fix releases have occured. Qt/KDE have also been around for quite some time, and support of them is not even planned. > The standard (Motif?) scrollbar looks (excuse me) so darn ugly and I > think Emacs deserves a more appealing appearance on the GNOME > desktop. You'll probably scream out in horror, but I use --with-gtk --without-toolkit-scroll-bars for my version of Emacs, with a few X resources to make the default scroll bars somewhat broader and nicer in color. And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars suck. To change the direction of moving, I have to move the mouse. I can't control the size of the move except by dragging (a recipe for RSI). When scrolling in one direction repeatedly, the moment the scroll "thumbmark" gyrates under the mouse cursor, it stops working. Let GTK+ offer a customization option "Athena style scrollbar semantics", and I won't be forced to replace them in order to use scrollbars productively. No mistake: the native, Athena style toolbars _look_ awful (and you can't mix the "real" Athena or its visually more attractive variant Xaw3d with GTK+) and screenshots from my Emacs sessions are not a recommendation. But I won't tolerate crippled scrollbars just because they are more visually appealing. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum _______________________________________________ Help-gnu-emacs mailing list Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
