Hi Hugo,

thanks for your additional feedback, even it if doesn't solve my question ;-)

BTW, why you all answer only privately, without CC: to the list? I think, this discussion could be helpful for others.

Cheers,

Ulf

Am 20.11.2012 05:13, schrieb Hugo Bodewig:
Hi Ulf,

I understand your concern since I tried something similar some years back with LILO and some MS versions but cannot remember what the result was.

However, I have one piece of advice. When I play around with the setup I do it first on an old desktop. It is slow, cumbersome and only suitable for trying out; but it will save you some potential nightmares.

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On 20 November 2012 04:11, Ulf Zibis <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Leslie again,

    thanks for your effort to describe your configuration.

    I'm afraid, my problem is very different from yours.

    You have only 1 Windows in your configuration, but I have 2.
    I guess, you have installed Windows in some fix partition and have never 
changed it. So the
    Windows inside will see this partition as e.g. C: and that never changed.

    In my case the "old" Windows-installation was originally installed in 
partition sda1 as C:
    Now I have copied that partition to sda5 with GParted and did a new 
Windows-installation in sda1.
    Grub 2 now shows 2 Windows operating systems in it's start menu after 
update-grub from Ubuntu
    in sda3. (sda2 is occupied by the ThinkPad recovery partition)
    When booting with Grub 2 into sda5, I'm afraid, the "old" Windows 
installation will see the
    sda1 partition as C: and sda5 as D: so it would use and probably change 
files in sda1 while
    referring to path C:\....
    Before I try this, I would be happy if someone could insure me, that Grub 2 
will hide
    partition sda1 when booting Windows from partition sda5 to prevent a 
corruption of the data in
    sda1 while first booting.

    Can somebody give me information about that risk and hopefully some hints 
how to prevent from?

    -Ulf


    Am 19.11.2012 20:55, schrieb Leslie S Satenstein:
    This is my process.

    1) My disk has Debian, Fedora16, Ubuntu, Windows and Fedora 18 (test).  If 
I boot without
    doing anything, it is the Debian grub.cfg file that takes control.

    2)  When an update comes for either of the distributions (Fedoras, or 
Ubuntu),  it is their
    own grub.cfg that gets updated. I need to transfer that update to the 
Debian grub.cfg

    3) When I see this happening I boot into my Debian system

    4) I log onto that Debian system as root and do a grub.mkconfig 
>/tmp/grub.cfg

    5) I review that grub.cfg to reset the default to 7 (it is a field near the 
beginning of the
    file) (Menus are Counted beginning with zero). I also remove more than two 
generations of
    linux entries in this grub.cfg and save the file.
    I change to the /boot/grub directory and do a cp grub.cfg to grub.bak
    I then copy the /tmp/grub.cfg to /boot/grub. (replacing the Debian grub.cfg)

    I reboot, and see all my updates. in the initial menu selection screen.

    grub.mkconfig will also recognize all windows operating systems


    Regards
    *
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    *Mr. Leslie Satenstein
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    Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
    and tomorrow will be even better.

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    --- On *Mon, 11/19/12, Ulf Zibis /<[email protected]> 
<mailto:[email protected]>/* wrote:


        From: Ulf Zibis <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: Can Grub start Windows XP from "other" partition
        To: "Leslie S Satenstein" <[email protected]> 
<mailto:[email protected]>,
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 12:31 PM

        Hi Leslie,

        that sounds good, thanks for your quick answer.

        Just to avoid some bad experience on my existing installation, are you 
really sure, that
        Windows will see the other not 1. partition, from which it is started, 
as C:, even from a
        logical partition?

        Again thanks,

        Ulf


        Am 17.11.2012 02:23, schrieb Leslie S Satenstein:
        YES.

        When you execute grub2, it surveys all the disks and all the partitions 
and lists all
        the operating systems in a list. You may set the default to the 
operating system of choice.

        The command is grub.mkconfig  (or grub-mkconfig)  put the output of 
mkconfig to /tmp ans
        use an editor to review it



        Regards
        *
         Leslie
        *
        *Mr. Leslie Satenstein
        *50 years in Information Technology and going strong.
        Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
        and tomorrow will be even better.

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<http://mc/[email protected]>
        alternative: [email protected] 
<http://mc/[email protected]>
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        --- On *Fri, 11/16/12, Ulf Zibis /<[email protected]>
        <http://mc/[email protected]>/* wrote:


            From: Ulf Zibis <[email protected]> 
<http://mc/[email protected]>
            Subject: Can Grub start Windows XP from "other" partition
            To: [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
            Date: Friday, November 16, 2012, 7:10 PM

            Hi,

            I have an old bad running WinXP installation, which was installed 
on partition 1 as C:.
            Now I want to move this installation to another partition and make 
a fresh WinXP
            installation on partition 1.
            For some reasons, I want to have the possibility to run the old 
installation later.
            I believe, that I can run it, if I manually "hide" the 1. partition 
and mark the 2.
            as active/boot, so Windows will guess the 2. partition as C:.
            I Grub smart enough to do that for me when booting the old Windows 
partition from
            the 2. partition?

            Ideally I would like to move the old WinXP installation to a 
"logical" partition.
            Would that also work?
            So my preferred partitioning would be like:
            Primary partition 1: new Windows XP installation
            Primary partition 2: Thinkpad Recovery (physically at the end of 
the of the harddrive)
            Primary partition 3: Ubuntu
            Extended partition 4:
            Logical partition 5: Ubuntu swap
            Logical partition 6: Data
            Logical partition 7: Backup
            Logical partition 8: old bad Windows XP installation (Copy from 
originally C:)

            Thanks for hints,

            -Ulf


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