Hi Leslie,

hm, that's surprising, as it seems, you are subscribed to the list.

From my side I always have to CC: [email protected] manually, as I'm not 
subscribed to the list.

None of your answers are visible here: 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2012-11/msg00048.html

Thanks for your feedback,

-Ulf


Am 20.11.2012 18:00, schrieb Leslie S Satenstein:
Hi Ulf

You wrote to me, so I wrote to you.  I was not avoiding the list. I click on 
reply all.
All was only you.



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--- On *Tue, 11/20/12, Ulf Zibis /<[email protected]>/* wrote:


    From: Ulf Zibis <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Can Grub start Windows XP from "other" partition
    To: "Hugo Bodewig" <[email protected]>
    Cc: [email protected]
    Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 7:03 AM

    Hi Hugo,

    thanks for your additional feedback, even it if doesn't solve my question 
;-)

    BTW, why you all answer only privately, without CC: to the list? I think, 
this discussion
    could be helpful for others.

    Cheers,

    Ulf

    Am 20.11.2012 05:13, schrieb Hugo Bodewig:
    Hi Ulf,

    I understand your concern since I tried something similar some years back 
with LILO and some
    MS versions but cannot remember what the result was.

    However, I have one piece of advice. When I play around with the setup I do 
it first on an
    old desktop. It is slow, cumbersome and only suitable for trying out; but 
it will save you
    some potential nightmares.

    Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen /
    Meilleures salutations/ Cordiali Saluti / 此致敬意
    Sinceramente seu / تفضلوا بقبول فائق الاحترام

    Dr. H. Bodewig
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    Links: http://bodewig.tel <http://bodewig.tel/>




    On 20 November 2012 04:11, Ulf Zibis <[email protected] 
</mc/[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi Leslie again,

        thanks for your effort to describe your configuration.

        I'm afraid, my problem is very different from yours.

        You have only 1 Windows in your configuration, but I have 2.
        I guess, you have installed Windows in some fix partition and have 
never changed it. So
        the Windows inside will see this partition as e.g. C: and that never 
changed.

        In my case the "old" Windows-installation was originally installed in 
partition sda1 as C:
        Now I have copied that partition to sda5 with GParted and did a new 
Windows-installation
        in sda1.
        Grub 2 now shows 2 Windows operating systems in it's start menu after 
update-grub from
        Ubuntu in sda3. (sda2 is occupied by the ThinkPad recovery partition)
        When booting with Grub 2 into sda5, I'm afraid, the "old" Windows 
installation will see
        the sda1 partition as C: and sda5 as D: so it would use and probably 
change files in sda1
        while referring to path C:\....
        Before I try this, I would be happy if someone could insure me, that 
Grub 2 will hide
        partition sda1 when booting Windows from partition sda5 to prevent a 
corruption of the
        data in sda1 while first booting.

        Can somebody give me information about that risk and hopefully some 
hints how to prevent
        from?

        -Ulf


        Am 19.11.2012 20:55, schrieb Leslie S Satenstein:
        This is my process.

        1) My disk has Debian, Fedora16, Ubuntu, Windows and Fedora 18 (test).  
If I boot
        without doing anything, it is the Debian grub.cfg file that takes 
control.

        2)  When an update comes for either of the distributions (Fedoras, or 
Ubuntu),  it is
        their own grub.cfg that gets updated. I need to transfer that update to 
the Debian grub.cfg

        3) When I see this happening I boot into my Debian system

        4) I log onto that Debian system as root and do a grub.mkconfig 
>/tmp/grub.cfg

        5) I review that grub.cfg to reset the default to 7 (it is a field near 
the beginning of
        the file) (Menus are Counted beginning with zero). I also remove more 
than two
        generations of linux entries in this grub.cfg and save the file.
        I change to the /boot/grub directory and do a cp grub.cfg to grub.bak
        I then copy the /tmp/grub.cfg to /boot/grub.  (replacing the Debian 
grub.cfg)

        I reboot, and see all my updates. in the initial menu selection screen.

        grub.mkconfig will also recognize all windows operating systems


        Regards
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        *Mr. Leslie Satenstein
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        Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
        and tomorrow will be even better.

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        --- On *Mon, 11/19/12, Ulf Zibis /<[email protected]> 
</mc/[email protected]>/*
        wrote:


            From: Ulf Zibis <[email protected]> </mc/[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: Can Grub start Windows XP from "other" partition
            To: "Leslie S Satenstein" <[email protected]>
            </mc/[email protected]>, [email protected]
            </mc/[email protected]>
            Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 12:31 PM

            Hi Leslie,

            that sounds good, thanks for your quick answer.

            Just to avoid some bad experience on my existing installation, are 
you really sure,
            that Windows will see the other not 1. partition, from which it is 
started, as C:,
            even from a logical partition?

            Again thanks,

            Ulf


            Am 17.11.2012 02:23, schrieb Leslie S Satenstein:
            YES.

            When you execute grub2, it surveys all the disks and all the 
partitions and lists
            all the operating systems in a list. You may set the default to the 
operating
            system of choice.

            The command is grub.mkconfig  (or grub-mkconfig) put the output of 
mkconfig to /tmp
            ans use an editor to review it



            Regards
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            *Mr. Leslie Satenstein
            *50 years in Information Technology and going strong.
            Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
            and tomorrow will be even better.

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<http://mc/[email protected]>
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            <http://mc/[email protected]>
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            --- On *Fri, 11/16/12, Ulf Zibis /<[email protected]>
            <http://mc/[email protected]>/* wrote:


                From: Ulf Zibis <[email protected]> 
<http://mc/[email protected]>
                Subject: Can Grub start Windows XP from "other" partition
                To: [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
                Date: Friday, November 16, 2012, 7:10 PM

                Hi,

                I have an old bad running WinXP installation, which was 
installed on partition
                1 as C:.
                Now I want to move this installation to another partition and 
make a fresh
                WinXP installation on partition 1.
                For some reasons, I want to have the possibility to run the old 
installation
                later. I believe, that I can run it, if I manually "hide" the 
1. partition and
                mark the 2. as active/boot, so Windows will guess the 2. 
partition as C:.
                I Grub smart enough to do that for me when booting the old 
Windows partition
                from the 2. partition?

                Ideally I would like to move the old WinXP installation to a 
"logical"
                partition. Would that also work?
                So my preferred partitioning would be like:
                Primary partition 1: new Windows XP installation
                Primary partition 2: Thinkpad Recovery (physically at the end 
of the of the
                harddrive)
                Primary partition 3: Ubuntu
                Extended partition 4:
                Logical partition 5: Ubuntu swap
                Logical partition 6: Data
                Logical partition 7: Backup
                Logical partition 8: old bad Windows XP installation (Copy from 
originally C:)

                Thanks for hints,

                -Ulf


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