Throw away society, nor burning man is not what I'm speaking of here. I'm thinking emergency shelters that can be packed deep and cheep in shipping containers. I think foam boards are an awful candidate for this as are frames. The hexayurt is a great idea to start from. It's sorta like the paper airplane stage compared to modern aviation (I know its a common comparison, but it works). But my point is it is an infant. It needs to grow up depending on the environment it will be used in and the circumstances.
I'm sure a frame is great if you wanna set up on the playa or want a more permanent structure. But if I had a choice of what to live in for 20yrs, a ply wood hexayurt or a dirt house made of mud and sandbags, etc, I would take the later over the former. Its cheaper, better insulated, lasts longer, and uses only natural, local materials. If you need to build wooden frames for 10m people, how does that affect local forests?If the wood is not available locally, how and where do you get the fuel needed to transport it? The material is dense and heavy when packed tight. Weight alone *could* make it impractical to move into remote disaster areas. In relation to emergency shelters in disaster areas, the hexayurt has lots of advantages over UN tents. They also have some critical failures too. I ask any one who doubts this to take a piece of foam board about a foot sq and try and set it on fire and see what happens. You do NOT want these things going up, especially if they are in a hexane configuration or if they are otherwise densly packed. So main strengths are that it is flat, light, cheep and relatively strong. Weaknesses, flammable and bendy when it's not fully assembled. It needs expensive tape or some alternative. The materials are not available locally for many areas of the world, not even in California, USA. So, your application with a frame is great for you and I'm sure it will fit some great niches. I do not consider it a good solution for large-scale emergency deployment, but that is just one guy's opinion. Take it for what it is worth. So just to set any sort of hostility or competetive vibes at ease... there is no one right way. <-- period. It depends on the situation. I happen to be focused on emergency shelter usage. Hoping for something better and cheaper that will last longer than UN Tents and won't pose local waste issues or have heavy environmental impact. Spiral On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:21 PM, roger jones <[email protected]> wrote: > damn,somebody needs to chillllll....Roger Geee > > > --- On *Thu, 1/28/10, T. Loos <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: T. Loos <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Digest for [email protected] - 6 Messages > in 2 Topics > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 6:16 PM > > > > Is there any reason to use a hexayurt if you have a frame? Might just > > make more sense to build an actual yurt in that case. > > Can you build a yurt frame for $70? Price it all out. > > > The hexayurt > > earns its strength as an emergency shelter due to low build time, off > > the shelf materials, minimal waste, and flat storage and shipping. A > > frame pretty much eliminates most of those benefits. > > Not at all. The stick frame ensures that the hexauyurt will remain > standing for a long time. > I mean if you are talking a temporary "party" like Burning Man, then > yeah I guess tape is the only way to go. > It fits right in with rampant throwaway society. No biggie. > > A wood frame like mine weighs 168 pounds. It can also pack flat. > If you can pack an extra person, you can pack a frame like this. > > Of course, for just one time BM happy camping and fluff uses like that > it's "overkill". > > I'm trying to take this a step further. It's way outside the box of > Burning Man I guess. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<http://us.mc1138.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hexayurt+ > [email protected]<http://us.mc1138.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<hexayurt%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en.
