Ah, *interesting* - but regular thermax is still a ton tougher than r-max
etc, I think - like a much more durable metal surface on it, basically?

Vinay

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Bill Wiltschko <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whoa, Vinay!  My HY is not HD, just plain Thermax.  I wish I could find
> HD.  It was trouble enough finding non-HD Thermax.
>
> btw, wear and tear is not a very big issue.  Whether you use Thermax,
> Tuff-R, or R-max, the foil on the outsides can easily be repaired with
> Aluminum tape.  Even though a roll of the high temperature tape costs as
> much as half a Thermax panel, it is still really cheap to maintain.
>
> The biggest maintenance problem comes from cutting the tape to separate
> the panels. It is impossible to NOT occasionally cut into the panel
> edges.  I've been thinking about embedding piano wire down the middle of
> key stretches of tape, but haven't tried it yet.  As I said, for the
> moment a heat gun seems to work best.
>
> Bill
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Source of Thermax in CA
> > From: "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, June 09, 2010 4:51 am
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> > Wow. I'd really, really like it if you could take some close up
> > pictures, maybe even video of the Thermax HD unit - really show off
> > the material, the lack of wear and tear.
> >
> > I always just left the tape on mine and put new tape over it the
> > following year, by the way :-)
> >
> > I really want to open up Thermax HD as The Right Thing To Do for the
> > hexayurt - the durability, the better fire resistance, the sheer
> > toughness. I never got to build one myself, because we couldn't get
> > the materials from Dow. I am not alone in this ;)
> >
> > If you can do more to make people aware of how great it is, and
> > explain how you sourced it, that would be *great*.
> >
> > Mebbe start a new thread on that, Bill?
> >
> > Vinay
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Bill Wiltschko <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > OK, Vinay, here goes.  I though you knew I had a Thermax HY.  NOT
> > > Thermax HD, just plan ol' Thermax.  As usual, I set it up in the
> > > Alternative Energy Zone theme village (AEZ), and gave a presentation on
> > > the HY (and swamp cooler, and misting system, etc, etc) every day on
> the
> > > daily AEZ tour.
> > > Pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/bill.wiltschko/2009BurningMan#
> > >
> > > It's holding up very well, but taking the tape off after several hours
> > > of exposure to the sun is kinda destructive to the foil (in several
> > > possible ways), but I've figured that out too.  Bring a heat gun; it
> > > does a beautiful job.
> > >
> > > The foil does nothing at all to the tape.  I did ruin a skilsaw blade
> > > cutting all the boards, though.
> > >
> > > I achieved playa nirvana: dust free and cool inside.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Source of Thermax in CA
> > >> From: "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Tue, June 08, 2010 4:58 pm
> > >> To: [email protected]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yes, yes I have! Do you have some pix? How's it holding up? Did the
> > >> metal cut the tape or was that OK?
> > >>
> > >> Tellmetellmetellme I've always wanted to build one out of that stuff.
> > >> The samples were *amazing*.
> > >>
> > >> Vinay
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bill Wiltschko <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> > My Thermax HY has been on the playa two years, this year with be the
> > >> > third year (knock on wood).  I know one other person has a Thermax
> HY,
> > >> > because I bought the Thermax for him.
> > >> >
> > >> > You've been off-playa too long, Vinay!
> > >> >
> > >> > Bill
> > >> >
> > >> >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Source of Thermax in CA
> > >> >> From: "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" <[email protected]
> >
> > >> >> Date: Tue, June 08, 2010 12:53 pm
> > >> >> To: [email protected]
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ooh... It's *such* a good material. Could this be the year we
> finally
> > >> >> see Thermax hexayurts?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> They'll last years. Possibly decades.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Vinay
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Bill Wiltschko <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> > I just called the Dow Building Solutions customer service number
> at 866
> > >> >> > 583-2583, and was told the following are distributors of Thermax:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Coyne Construction
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Oroville, 916 631-6500
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Bay Insulation
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Fresno, 559 268-6330
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Bill Wiltschko
> > >> >> >
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