Ian, Great to hear from you. That stinks about the rain and thank you for making me feel better that I missed the best time ever, hehehe.
I am working with a friend who just finished her degree in Architecture. She has built cardboard houses before for school. She used thinned white glue to coat the outside of the cardboard and this provided quite a lot of water protection. I am trying to figure out how to do this on the paper joints so they don't become brittle or useless. I think that we need to all decide on the best place to start putting our 'learned' knowledge. Roof Vents. Types of Tape. Types of tie downs. Places to buy stuff. Cooling Systems. Ect. I am continuing to work on Cardboard based Hexayurts. I like insulation except it is moopy and bad to burn. I also don't like the alien space ship effect on the Playa with tons of Silver that blinds you as you walk by. I want to build a Hexayurt with painted walls and cool windows which is difficult to do with insulation. Don't get me wrong my insulation hexy was awesome way better then the Plague tent the year before. I imagine a day when you can go to a single site and easily find all the names numbers instructions and details to get this done in a day. I know we have this Google group but I like Wiki's and the Google Group doesn't have that. I could start a TiddlyWiki and post it in the Files section but that seems clunky. Also things change rapidly with Hexy's it seems. Last years best practice is this years biggest mistake. Anyone have design experience that could make a cool 'Hexy's are Sexy' Shirt? Thank Vinay for this awesome idea. Rich Shumaker On Sep 15, 11:53 am, Ian Bates <[email protected]> wrote: > I actually did cover 4 of the panels with a mylar-like material (emergency > blankets that they give out by the thousands at some marathons...people > simply throw them away after using them for a few minutes. I collected them > pretty easily), and simply taped it on with Gorilla tape. That worked > pretty well for those panels. Unfortunately I placed those on the east and > west to help block the low-angle sun. They would have been much more useful > on the roof panels to preclude rain, but that would have been moot if I had > covered all panels. I also painted some panels with white exterior house > paint, and those fared ok given the length and amount of rain we received. > Hexacomb is still probably not suitable for non-desert use, even if covered > or painted, but probably sufficient for the playa. I was also looking for > Hexacomb the other day and had a hard time finding plain Hexacomb. What I > did find was "Falcon Board"... which is essentially Hexacomb that is > precoated on one side for use in display panels. Has anyone used this > stuff? This might be a good alternative to petrochemical-heavy TherMax HD > (super hard to find) or R-Max. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Spiral Syzygy <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I would imagine that using some spray-on contact adhesive with some > > mylar would remedy the water-proofing issue. Just put it on before the > > edging tape to ensure the edges of the mylar don't peel up. > > > Spiral > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Ian Bates <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rich- > > > You probably remember me as the guy who came to your place in Oakland to > > > pick up my portion of the Hexacomb order. I used the Hexacomb cardboard > > > both last year and this year, to pretty good effect. However... you > > missed > > > this year, and specifically missed a significant rain storm on Monday. > > > Turns out cardboard isn't the best in rain... who knew? As much as I > > love > > > the Hexacomb, for application on the playa, and especially off playa, a > > > solid waterproofing strategy needs to be implemented. Because of that I > > may > > > not use it again, at least in isolation. This year I was half way through > > > tarping my structure when the rain hit, and got thoroughly soaked. > > Monday > > > night was miserable, and the panels were a partial loss.... they fared ok > > > the rest of the week, but they weren't worth taking home and reusing. > > > Luckily Hexacomb burns quite nicely, so we had a little memorial service > > > for our home and chucked it into a burn platform at the end of the week. > > > Cathartic at least! So that's my two cents on the efficacy of Hexacomb > > as > > > a building material... even on the "it never rains" playa. BTW... I > > wasn't > > > using tape at all. I built a very light wooden frame and used screws and > > > washers to attach the panels to the frame. Works quite well. I may try > > to > > > go even lighter next year by having just a few blocks cut at angles that > > > serve as screw attachment points between panels... I think a bit like the > > > plywood Hexayurts that Vinay demonstrated in London. > > > And Rich... don't worry about missing BM this year... no fun at all. Too > > > dusty, too hot, the art and music were a bore. Nothing missed at all. > > ;) > > > Ian > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Richard Shumaker < > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> I missed BM this year and that is a sore topic as I am sure most > > >> understand. 2 years ago I built a 6 foot high 6 foot stretch with > > honeycomb > > >> cardboard and my primary tape pre-playa was low cost heavy duty paper > > tape. > > >> All folding seams and all edges. The roof was one continuous piece and > > the > > >> walls were 2 parts. > > > >> This year I want to use white walled cardboard and tape to avoid thermal > > >> transfer. I am also looking at beehiving or hex-papering several hex's > > >> together. > > > >> Has anyone done there tie downs for zero clearance meaning no guide wire > > >> trips. Also has anyone overlapped hexs and removed redundant walls? > > > >> I wanted to write up the success and failures of my honeycomb yurt but I > > >> never had the time. Oh and bi-direcional tape on both my previous yurts > > was > > >> shot by the end of the week. I am considering the tie down option. Has > > >> anyone ever used medical wrap that is re-uasble and stretchy for the > > >> connection of roof and walls. Three wraps around stretched tight with > > it > > >> anchored to itself and security taped should probably work. > > > >> One idea I don't remember reading here on this set of ideas that I saw 2 > > >> years ago is tie downs. Instead of rope you use tie downs that you > > would > > >> for your car for your corners. It make tightening daily easier too. > > > >> Rich Shumaker > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > >> "hexayurt" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]<hexayurt%[email protected]> > > . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "hexayurt" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<hexayurt%[email protected]> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "hexayurt" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<hexayurt%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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