I just constructed a full-scale H13 using dou's rearranged hinge
method today to bring to the playa this year.

It works great!
The two-piece design made it nice and easy to put together the roof on
the ground with 3 people (since we may have to), then grabbed 2 more
to lift it onto the walls.

Great mod, dou!

On Jul 14, 6:31 am, dou <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another way to bisect the roof is as shown in the picture of the model
> attached, and to use all tight hinges (some from the inside, some from the
> outside). It does pack just as well as the four-piece roof + two-piece
> walls, and I'm still thinking that it will improve stability to have a roof
> with all-tight-hinges. Some minimal taping (or pieces of plastic) at the end
> of the inside hinges should be able to direct water outside from the funnels
> of water.
>
> We were hoping to get this built and documented by now, but due to a number
> of setbacks, we only managed to build half of it. We'll have to finish when
> I come back to the states just before burning man, so unfortunately I won't
> be able to comment further until then.
>
> Good luck,
> -dou
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> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Julie Danger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yes, tricky design.  I talked with my nearest engineer and he's unsure of
> > its stability, he recommends the 10' hexayurt over it which surprised me.
> > If you make one, get really smart about the way that you lash it down--
> > maybe two rope halos, for each peak?
>
> > I do recommend 4 separate roof sections because they minimize and stabilize
> > shipping space. Another flat piece of tape on-playa isn't that difficult.
> > There are two ways to bisect the roof, but one side looks like a standard
> > hexayurt, the other looks like...something else, and has the "high flat
> > face" where a door would logically go. If we're talking about the
> > 'traditional looking' half, yes: you can join 3 triangular panels with 3
> > tight hinges--but be mindful which ones you pick! I prefer the 0.5x loose
> > hinges on that side, partially because I'm used to it, and partially because
> > tight hinges joining the "kite" will create funnels for water in the
> > instance of rain. Perhaps not disastrous, but the loose hinge is ironically
> > more stable.
> > For the "different" half of the roof, with the door face on it: DO a tight
> > hinge from the inside on those kites.  My initial instructions were plain
> > wrong: the math worked but it was very unstable.  This will also create a
> > funnel for rain-- you can always add some 3" tape from the outside after the
> > hexayurt is constructed
>
> > One of the recent builders said it seemed unstable when assemble just using
> > tape patches: the tape ring that joins the roof to the walls is a critical
> > element of stability, as is the way you guy down the yurt (again, a rope
> > halo might be best on an H13, perhaps in combination w/ tape anchors). So,
> > stability should improve. However, I realize: a nice tall door will cut into
> > the tape tension ring! This, plus the instability that asymmetrical
> > structures have, makes me advise you to overbuild it!
>
> > Any H13 builders, please consider shooting some video, even if it's crappy
> > video!  You don't even have to talk-- in fact, no language is preferred for
> > the international community.  I'll happily edit it into something useful.
>
> > Thanks!
> > J
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