Is there a definitive recipe for this? I'm just gearing up for a regular,
default H12 (built one before), but if there's a recipe where I don't have to
spend hours scratching my head I might switch.
Thanks,
Steve
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On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:13 PM, andreas wrote:
> I just constructed a full-scale H13 using dou's rearranged hinge
> method today to bring to the playa this year.
>
> It works great!
> The two-piece design made it nice and easy to put together the roof on
> the ground with 3 people (since we may have to), then grabbed 2 more
> to lift it onto the walls.
>
> Great mod, dou!
>
> On Jul 14, 6:31 am, dou <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Another way to bisect the roof is as shown in the picture of the model
>> attached, and to use all tight hinges (some from the inside, some from the
>> outside). It does pack just as well as the four-piece roof + two-piece
>> walls, and I'm still thinking that it will improve stability to have a roof
>> with all-tight-hinges. Some minimal taping (or pieces of plastic) at the end
>> of the inside hinges should be able to direct water outside from the funnels
>> of water.
>>
>> We were hoping to get this built and documented by now, but due to a number
>> of setbacks, we only managed to build half of it. We'll have to finish when
>> I come back to the states just before burning man, so unfortunately I won't
>> be able to comment further until then.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> -dou
>>
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>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Julie Danger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yes, tricky design. I talked with my nearest engineer and he's unsure of
>>> its stability, he recommends the 10' hexayurt over it which surprised me.
>>> If you make one, get really smart about the way that you lash it down--
>>> maybe two rope halos, for each peak?
>>
>>> I do recommend 4 separate roof sections because they minimize and stabilize
>>> shipping space. Another flat piece of tape on-playa isn't that difficult.
>>> There are two ways to bisect the roof, but one side looks like a standard
>>> hexayurt, the other looks like...something else, and has the "high flat
>>> face" where a door would logically go. If we're talking about the
>>> 'traditional looking' half, yes: you can join 3 triangular panels with 3
>>> tight hinges--but be mindful which ones you pick! I prefer the 0.5x loose
>>> hinges on that side, partially because I'm used to it, and partially because
>>> tight hinges joining the "kite" will create funnels for water in the
>>> instance of rain. Perhaps not disastrous, but the loose hinge is ironically
>>> more stable.
>>> For the "different" half of the roof, with the door face on it: DO a tight
>>> hinge from the inside on those kites. My initial instructions were plain
>>> wrong: the math worked but it was very unstable. This will also create a
>>> funnel for rain-- you can always add some 3" tape from the outside after the
>>> hexayurt is constructed
>>
>>> One of the recent builders said it seemed unstable when assemble just using
>>> tape patches: the tape ring that joins the roof to the walls is a critical
>>> element of stability, as is the way you guy down the yurt (again, a rope
>>> halo might be best on an H13, perhaps in combination w/ tape anchors). So,
>>> stability should improve. However, I realize: a nice tall door will cut into
>>> the tape tension ring! This, plus the instability that asymmetrical
>>> structures have, makes me advise you to overbuild it!
>>
>>> Any H13 builders, please consider shooting some video, even if it's crappy
>>> video! You don't even have to talk-- in fact, no language is preferred for
>>> the international community. I'll happily edit it into something useful.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> J
>>
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