Also, note that the image is to-scale, so the angles should be correct if
printed and protracted

~Adam

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Adam Risi <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am not sure about Ray's math - I just did the numbers myself, and here
> is what I got:
>
> 1) The diameter of an octagon is D = Sqrt[2 (2 + Sqrt[2])] a, where a is
> the length of a single side.
>
> a = 8'
> D = Sqrt[2 (2 + Sqrt[2])] a = Sqrt[2 (2 + Sqrt[2])] 8 = 20.905'
> R = radius = 1/2 D = 10.453
>
> 2) The angle of the roof can be modeled like so:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/FdqIF.png
>
> This assumes a 12' long roof panel.
>
> The general formula for calculating the angle P is ArcCos[10.45/L], where
> L is the length of a roof panel. Given the angle, the length of a roof
> panel is calculated as 10.45/Cos[P Degree].
>
> I don't know the angle of the roof for a default hexayurt off-hand, but
> this should get you where you need to be. All of the formulas in this
> message can be copied to Wolfram Alpha for use/verification.
>
> Also, hello hexayurters (first message on board).
>
> ~Adam
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM, ken winston caine <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Joshua, if I extend the length of the roof diagonals enough, I actually
>> increase the roof pitch -- even though I've gone all octo. But there is a
>> point of diminishing returns because of the flex in the foam board. (The
>> longer the reach, the less rigid it is.)
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out what the shortest length is that will give me a
>> greater pitch than the traditional hexayurt has.
>>
>> Anyone have numbers?
>>
>> (Sure wish I'd paid more attention in Geometry. Or had understood how and
>> when I would NEED to know this stuff in the real world. That would have
>> gotten me to pay more attention to it then.)
>>
>> -- kwc
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Joshua Keroes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The more sides you add, the flatter the roof becomes. If you're worried
>>> about snow load, I think you'd want the steeper roof of a pentayurt or
>>> quadyurt than the rather flat roof of an octoyurt.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, kenwinston caine <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jason. Not suggesting that you're wrong. Just want to
>>>> understand why the standard 6 - side version would be both simpler and
>>>> stronger?
>>>> Stronger simply because it's smaller and would thus have more
>>>> rigidity? Or something else? Something in the math?
>>>>
>>>> I'm wanting to do the octagon to retain the essential structural
>>>> integrity of the hexayurt design and the hogan-like appearance--which
>>>> I like, and to gain significant floor area. The octagon gives 309
>>>> square feet of floor space vs. the 166 for the hexagon. And, if I've
>>>> successfully increased the roof pitch enough, it also provides room
>>>> for a sizeable, comfortably usable loft.
>>>> Thanks,ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:30 AM, jason chinn <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:How come you don't do the standard 6 side version? Doing so
>>>> makes the design / math / production a lot more simple, and stronger.
>>>> I have only made one hexayurt, it was made with 8' tall vertical sides
>>>> that I then chopped down to 6' tall on the outside.
>>>> I suggest making a smaller model to work things out. Good Luck, jason
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