You can see two versions of the loading scheme: - Parallel to length: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6597732/BurningMan/YurtStorageTrailer-55.jpg - Perpendicular to length: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6597732/BurningMan/YurtStorageTrailer-perpendicular.jpg
-jb > On Jan 3, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interested! Also curious what the loading scheme is... > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Jay Batson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi, fellow yurt-fans - > > I’m inquiring how many people would be interested in an organized, > large-scale yurt storage solution, with on-playa pickup/drop-off, for > year-to-year storage at Burning Man. After reading this email, RSVP with > answers to these three questions if interested. If enough people want this, > I'll go do it. > > Questions: > How many yurts would you want to store as described here? > Would you be ok that the trailer contents are NOT insured? > Do you need transport to/from your camp on-Playa? And would you be ok with > one of the transport choices below? > Background: > I suspect a large number of yurts sit unused between burns. They take up > valuable space in sheds / garages, or sit on (& kill) lawns. Some owners pay > for storage near home. Yurts transported to/from the Playa get beat up (by > other camp gear or ropes), and reduce gas mileage for people hauling them on > cars. Plus, they're just a pain in the neck to plan for & transport. > > This seems silly. Lots of big BM camps put stuff in semi-trailers, haul them > on/off playa & store them in Gerlach between burns. Why not do that with > trailers full of Yurts? > > Plan: > Here's my goals. (Read "GOALS"; this is an in-process plan, and is not yet a > firm offer. ;-) > 1+ dry, enclosed semi-trailers 100% devoted to and optimized for yurt > storage. No camp gear. Period. (# trailers depends on demand. I'm currently > targeting 50-55 yurts / trailer.) > Random access. A key planning goal is that nobody should have to wait for the > trailer to be unloaded to get their yurt. Show up, pull your yurt, go to your > camp. > I’ve been using a 3D CAD package and have identified a loading scheme that > enables this. > Available readily on-Playa for yurt pick-up & drop-off. Hopefully: > Placed somewhere between 5:30-6:30 and F-H. > Arrives at least Thursday before gate open (if not earlier), and leaves > Tuesday or Wednesday after the burn. > Unattended, locked trailers. Those with yurts in storage would be given the > combination to a lock on the trailer doors. Burners GOTTA LOCK THE DOOR > behind them as they leave. :-) > Dependability & quality. Your shelter matters. > Other details: > Wrapping. Yurts must be package-wrapped in a tarp (use your floor tarp), with > straps to keep it tight enough to be dragged along the trailer floor ON EDGE. > Maximum 1/4” ply sandwich; prefer 1/8” ply. > It'd be best if every yurt wrap also had the owners name stenciled on the > tarp. No matter what, there will be string tags that attach to every yurt > along the edge visible when stored. > If practical, there'll be a chart showing where every owner's yurt is packed > once the trailer is fully packed. > All fees paid pre-burn. > Contents insured? TBD. I have no cost quotes yet; but I'm betting trailer > contents insurance will cost $thousands/year, which drives up costs a LOT - > maybe by $50/yurt. > Target cost: $200 / yurt / year for H12 with 1” foam (14" thick allowance). > Other yurt sizes TBD, but proportionate. E.g. 1-1/2” foam is a 50% price > premium. This price is still WILDLY subject to change. > > On-Playa transport: Early discussions with people have revealed a need for a > way to haul yurts between the trailer & camps. I’m VERY early in thinking > about this. Single yurts can be transported from the trailer to your camp on > the roof of whatever car you came in - even without a rack. But camps with > many yurts may need bulk transport. I've started looking for flatbed trailers > that can hold 10 (or so) yurts, towed behind a pickup. Like the semi-trailer, > this needs purchased, and it's costly enough that transport needs to be an > incremental charge. Here's my early thoughts on that: > Bulk transport at pre-arranged times. ($20/yurt 1-way, $40/yurt round trip). > Camps with lots of yurts would pre-arrange for pickup (pre-burn!). > Transport on fixed, scheduled route. ($25/yurt 1-way, $50/yurt RT). Designed > for people with one, or a couple of yurts, but no car, who have friends. Use > friends to carry your yurt a couple streets, and wait for the flatbed, which > runs all the way around the Playa on one ring street - e.g. H street. Runs > Saturday-Monday (both weekends), from 2:00(street) &H and running clockwise > to 10:00/H. Runs 2x/day (starts at 11am & 4pm). > Single yurt transport on demand. ($30/yurt, $60 RT). This is the biggest > waste of resources, so comes at a premium cost. It should be discouraged. > Requires volunteers to drive the truck / trailer! Like pickup/dropoff, nobody > wants to spend their entire burn handling yurts. > (Note: I'm looking at various cart ideas that can be pushed / pulled. I don't > want to complicate this thread with a discussion on that. Start another > thread. ;-) > RSVP by replying to this email. Please delete all the text other than the > questions / answers, to keep the thread readable. > Thanks > -jb > > PS - Here's some other after-notes: > I’m coordinating with Hal Muskat on this, since he’s been doing some storage > to-date. My aim is to dramatically grow the size / capabilities in order to > drive down costs & increase availability. > I'm working on balancing this being a for-fee service in the presence of a > gifting economy. I'm comfortable with this proposal as-is for two reasons: > Widespread precedent. There are already many vendors who charge for transport > on/off playa, and provide storage off-site. Lots of camps already use such > services. The concept is already a fact of life in Burning Man. BRYST becomes > merely one more of those vendors, happily focused on yurt owners. > I intend to set this up as a "public benefit corporation". (Google that if > needed, or see here <http://benefitcorp.net/quick-faqs>.) I want an operating > form that gives me the ability to operate quickly and independently; lots of > last-minute stuff needs to get done at Burning Man, and I frankly don't want > to have to track down a bunch of burners on-playa to because some expenditure > needs a majority decision. > > BUT, my goal is NOT profit; I don't need money. My goal is to benefit > burners. The public benefit corporation structure works perfect for this. > I'll make the corp's stated purpose be to benefit burners who own yurts, and > will issue an annual report on how well it is doing. (Using, e.g. NPS score, > transparency in financial costs, etc. It needs to be lightweight, but > accurate & transparent.) > > I'll aim to operate at roughly break-even. (Actually, I'll aim to be slightly > cash-positive to create reserves for unexpected future costs like trailer > repair, etc.) > > I believe this to be consistent with Burning Man ethos; I welcome discussion > on this topic. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt > <http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/ICiMzZi2kBw/unsubscribe > <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hexayurt/ICiMzZi2kBw/unsubscribe>. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt > <http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -------- Jay Batson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Mobile: +1-978-758-1599 Blog: http://startupdj.com <http://startupdj.com/> Twitter: @jab <http://twitter.com/jab> Schedule time to meet or talk <http://doodle.com/batsonjay> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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