J, great job! I didn't think of taping the tarp on the outside, my door design was all the way to the bottom edge of the panel. Did you have to tape it up on the playa? This is the part of that I was trying to avoid doing :)
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM J. Pinder <jbpin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I did a similar build last year with 1" boards and never had any problems > with wind and leaking. check it out here! thanks for this inspiration. > > http://imgur.com/a/mj6K1 > > J > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Alex Gorbatchev < > alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Steve! >> >> You are my hero :) Thank you so much for all the updates, it's really >> inspiring to see you using my design. Every problem you mentioned I can >> confirm personally. The flapping walls in strong winds and the weak front >> door panel. After 3 burns, I sold my yurt this year due to storage space >> issues. >> >> > I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the tarp. >> >> Not sure if I understand you correctly, but keep in mind that you can't >> reliably glue anything to the surface of the RMax panels if the tension is >> going to be away from the surface. The velcro tape will just come off with >> the silver paper. >> >> I ended up simply folding the tarp along the insides of the walls without >> attaching it all together... it's not "pretty", but it works for the >> purpose of not letting water inside. >> >> If you want to solve the flapping walls issues, I was going to add a few >> eyelets to the end of the pipes and stake them down into the ground. >> >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:51 AM Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'll post some pictures when I'm staging it later (I'm miserable about >>> taking pictures on-Playa). >>> >>> For securing the pyramid, I have rope loops attached to the plywood >>> roof. On the ground, I use 10" lag screws with a washer and two links of >>> chain. In between, basic Home Depot ratchet straps. With the corner edges >>> of the structure are reinforced with EMT pipe, that REALLY holds it down. >>> >>> I use 1" foam because I wanted to make a smaller package for transport. >>> Having used 1-1/2" in the past on a hexayurt, I can say that it would be >>> plenty strong for this use. 50% bigger package though. >>> >>> As for stability from the tarp, I'm very confident in the shear strength >>> of the velcro. (I use it for "wrapping" around the corners, and last year, >>> just taking it apart caused significant damage to the yurt) >>> What I'm more worried about is the strength of the foil on the panels. >>> The manufacturer doesn't pay any attention to the durability of the bond of >>> foil-on-foam. I may resort to laying a strip of flashing metal down for >>> reinforcement. (I don't want to get involved with nuts and bolts b/c I want >>> flat panels for stacking.) >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:02 AM Bobby Ray <catruefri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for asking for questions .... I would love to see some updated >>>> pix. >>>> >>>> How did you secure the pyramid so that the winds did not blow it away. >>>> >>>> You mentioned 1 inch foam not being strong enough ... is 1.5 inches >>>> strong enough? >>>> Would a 6 inch wide perimeter strip give the required stability? Maybe >>>> the tarp can be >>>> pinched between the reinforcing perimeter strip? Maybe two reinforcing >>>> perimeter strips - >>>> one inside and one out side 4 inch bolts and large fender washers used >>>> for attaching and >>>> spacing the bolts to go through the grommets of your tarp? >>>> >>>> Bobby Ray who who yearns to make it to Burning Man. 951-764-1335 >>>> <(951)%20764-1335> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Re the pyramid hexayurt: this will be my third year with this design, >>>>> and I think I've solved a couple of problems. >>>>> >>>>> Problem The First: sealing the bottom. First year I just lay the base >>>>> on a tarp, and got light, wind and dust coming in the bottom. Second year >>>>> I >>>>> tried trenching the walls and keeping the tarp inside, velcroing it to the >>>>> insides of the walls. Result: it was a huge pain doing the trenching in >>>>> such a way that the walls hit flat on the bottom. >>>>> >>>>> Problem The Second: with 1" walls, this design is a tad floppy in a >>>>> high wind. There was one several-hour period when I wasn't sure the thing >>>>> would survive. Plus, movement of the bottoms of the walls near their >>>>> centers makes it nearly impossible to seal the bottom (see Problem The >>>>> First). >>>>> >>>>> Problem The Third: the arch shape of the front wall with the door cut >>>>> out is VERY fragile. I had to do a field repair last year, and consider >>>>> myself lucky to have made it back. I'm rebuilding the front wall today. >>>>> >>>>> Problem The Fourth: (related to #3), the front wall tends to splay >>>>> corner-to-corner, further reducing the strength of the wall and killing >>>>> your door seal. >>>>> >>>>> Okay, so now you know the context, here's my solution to all four >>>>> problems (trying it this year; results to follow). The main thing is >>>>> handling the tarp. I'm going to cut a tarp 6" wider on all sides than the >>>>> yurt. I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the tarp. >>>>> In situ, I'll fold the tarp up and velcro it into place, "wrapping" the >>>>> base of the yurt. This will eliminate the sealing problem *and also >>>>> the structural problems*, since it will keep the four walls from >>>>> poofing outward and hold the front wall from splaying. >>>>> >>>>> How does that work at the front wall? Easy: instead of the single >>>>> "bridge" above the door, I'm going to cut the door leaving solid wall >>>>> across top *and *bottom; the bottom bit will secure the tarp there. >>>>> >>>>> Codicil the first: I'm also going to strength both of those "bridges" >>>>> by gluing thin flashing steel straight across (inside and out) >>>>> >>>>> Codicil the second: to keep the rain completely out, i'll glue a flap >>>>> of silver mylar just above the tarp, overlapping it. >>>>> >>>>> Any questions? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM Bobby Ray <catruefri...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am interested. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Bobby Ray >>>>>> 951-764-1335 <(951)%20764-1335> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>> alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/6016890618.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>>> alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Friends, here are a few more photos from 2016. This yurt has >>>>>>>> successfully survived 3 burns now with zero alterations from or fix ups >>>>>>>> from the original date of assembly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm selling the yurt now (Oakland, CA) because I no longer have >>>>>>>> space to keep it and am switching up to a shelter that is easier to >>>>>>>> store >>>>>>>> in an apartment. If you are interested in this yurt, please reach out >>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 2:49:51 PM UTC-7, Alex Gorbatchev wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey friends! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Want to share my shelter / "hexayurt" from Burning Man 2014. This >>>>>>>> was made from 9 standard 8x4' RMax 1" panels with a custom roof and a >>>>>>>> wind >>>>>>>> mill exhaust. I added 1/4 EMT pipe to each vertical panel edge and >>>>>>>> connected all panels with heavy duty zip ties which made assembly and >>>>>>>> disassembly possible in 10-15 minutes. It's about 7.5' tall in the >>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>> and 12x12' wide. 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