did I have to tape the tarp on the playa? I did. It was suuuuper easy, just get a buddy to help you! It wasn't particularly windy when we set it up eaither, and a ladder with someone propping it up on the inside helped alot when taping the outside of the structure.
J Pinder Director Producer Seize Short Film <http://www.seizefilm.com> smash.media p.(323) 379-5769 On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Alex Gorbatchev <[email protected]> wrote: > J, great job! I didn't think of taping the tarp on the outside, my door > design was all the way to the bottom edge of the panel. Did you have to > tape it up on the playa? This is the part of that I was trying to avoid > doing :) > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM J. Pinder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I did a similar build last year with 1" boards and never had any problems >> with wind and leaking. check it out here! thanks for this inspiration. >> >> http://imgur.com/a/mj6K1 >> >> J >> >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Alex Gorbatchev < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey Steve! >>> >>> You are my hero :) Thank you so much for all the updates, it's really >>> inspiring to see you using my design. Every problem you mentioned I can >>> confirm personally. The flapping walls in strong winds and the weak front >>> door panel. After 3 burns, I sold my yurt this year due to storage space >>> issues. >>> >>> > I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the tarp. >>> >>> Not sure if I understand you correctly, but keep in mind that you can't >>> reliably glue anything to the surface of the RMax panels if the tension is >>> going to be away from the surface. The velcro tape will just come off with >>> the silver paper. >>> >>> I ended up simply folding the tarp along the insides of the walls >>> without attaching it all together... it's not "pretty", but it works for >>> the purpose of not letting water inside. >>> >>> If you want to solve the flapping walls issues, I was going to add a few >>> eyelets to the end of the pipes and stake them down into the ground. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:51 AM Steve Upstill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'll post some pictures when I'm staging it later (I'm miserable about >>>> taking pictures on-Playa). >>>> >>>> For securing the pyramid, I have rope loops attached to the plywood >>>> roof. On the ground, I use 10" lag screws with a washer and two links of >>>> chain. In between, basic Home Depot ratchet straps. With the corner edges >>>> of the structure are reinforced with EMT pipe, that REALLY holds it down. >>>> >>>> I use 1" foam because I wanted to make a smaller package for transport. >>>> Having used 1-1/2" in the past on a hexayurt, I can say that it would be >>>> plenty strong for this use. 50% bigger package though. >>>> >>>> As for stability from the tarp, I'm very confident in the shear >>>> strength of the velcro. (I use it for "wrapping" around the corners, and >>>> last year, just taking it apart caused significant damage to the yurt) >>>> What I'm more worried about is the strength of the foil on the panels. >>>> The manufacturer doesn't pay any attention to the durability of the bond of >>>> foil-on-foam. I may resort to laying a strip of flashing metal down for >>>> reinforcement. (I don't want to get involved with nuts and bolts b/c I want >>>> flat panels for stacking.) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:02 AM Bobby Ray <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for asking for questions .... I would love to see some updated >>>>> pix. >>>>> >>>>> How did you secure the pyramid so that the winds did not blow it away. >>>>> >>>>> You mentioned 1 inch foam not being strong enough ... is 1.5 inches >>>>> strong enough? >>>>> Would a 6 inch wide perimeter strip give the required stability? >>>>> Maybe the tarp can be >>>>> pinched between the reinforcing perimeter strip? Maybe two >>>>> reinforcing perimeter strips - >>>>> one inside and one out side 4 inch bolts and large fender washers used >>>>> for attaching and >>>>> spacing the bolts to go through the grommets of your tarp? >>>>> >>>>> Bobby Ray who who yearns to make it to Burning Man. 951-764-1335 >>>>> <(951)%20764-1335> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Steve Upstill <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Re the pyramid hexayurt: this will be my third year with this design, >>>>>> and I think I've solved a couple of problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem The First: sealing the bottom. First year I just lay the base >>>>>> on a tarp, and got light, wind and dust coming in the bottom. Second >>>>>> year I >>>>>> tried trenching the walls and keeping the tarp inside, velcroing it to >>>>>> the >>>>>> insides of the walls. Result: it was a huge pain doing the trenching in >>>>>> such a way that the walls hit flat on the bottom. >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem The Second: with 1" walls, this design is a tad floppy in a >>>>>> high wind. There was one several-hour period when I wasn't sure the thing >>>>>> would survive. Plus, movement of the bottoms of the walls near their >>>>>> centers makes it nearly impossible to seal the bottom (see Problem The >>>>>> First). >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem The Third: the arch shape of the front wall with the door cut >>>>>> out is VERY fragile. I had to do a field repair last year, and consider >>>>>> myself lucky to have made it back. I'm rebuilding the front wall today. >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem The Fourth: (related to #3), the front wall tends to splay >>>>>> corner-to-corner, further reducing the strength of the wall and killing >>>>>> your door seal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, so now you know the context, here's my solution to all four >>>>>> problems (trying it this year; results to follow). The main thing is >>>>>> handling the tarp. I'm going to cut a tarp 6" wider on all sides than the >>>>>> yurt. I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the >>>>>> tarp. >>>>>> In situ, I'll fold the tarp up and velcro it into place, "wrapping" the >>>>>> base of the yurt. This will eliminate the sealing problem *and also >>>>>> the structural problems*, since it will keep the four walls from >>>>>> poofing outward and hold the front wall from splaying. >>>>>> >>>>>> How does that work at the front wall? Easy: instead of the single >>>>>> "bridge" above the door, I'm going to cut the door leaving solid wall >>>>>> across top *and *bottom; the bottom bit will secure the tarp there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Codicil the first: I'm also going to strength both of those "bridges" >>>>>> by gluing thin flashing steel straight across (inside and out) >>>>>> >>>>>> Codicil the second: to keep the rain completely out, i'll glue a flap >>>>>> of silver mylar just above the tarp, overlapping it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any questions? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM Bobby Ray <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am interested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Bobby Ray >>>>>>> 951-764-1335 <(951)%20764-1335> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/6016890618.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Friends, here are a few more photos from 2016. This yurt has >>>>>>>>> successfully survived 3 burns now with zero alterations from or fix >>>>>>>>> ups >>>>>>>>> from the original date of assembly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm selling the yurt now (Oakland, CA) because I no longer have >>>>>>>>> space to keep it and am switching up to a shelter that is easier to >>>>>>>>> store >>>>>>>>> in an apartment. If you are interested in this yurt, please reach out >>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 2:49:51 PM UTC-7, Alex Gorbatchev >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey friends! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Want to share my shelter / "hexayurt" from Burning Man 2014. This >>>>>>>>> was made from 9 standard 8x4' RMax 1" panels with a custom roof and a >>>>>>>>> wind >>>>>>>>> mill exhaust. I added 1/4 EMT pipe to each vertical panel edge and >>>>>>>>> connected all panels with heavy duty zip ties which made assembly and >>>>>>>>> disassembly possible in 10-15 minutes. It's about 7.5' tall in the >>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>> and 12x12' wide. Comfortably held a queen size air bed, small table >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> two benches 4 crates with clothing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The windmill worked amazingly well. During stronger winds and dust >>>>>>>>> gusts it was actually sucking out more dust from inside the yurt and >>>>>>>>> kept >>>>>>>>> the place even cleaner. 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