At 12:24 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:

There is a support structure within HG's, pieces rest on pieces which rest on pieces which are supported by glue or mechanical supports or bearnings.

Most instruments settle with age, but most stabilize, and good design takes this into account.

When a sudden change occurs in a complex machine, especially one that is mechanical in nature, I start the search by looking carefully at the overall structure of the machine - is everything still straight, are all the heights and widths and lengths still what they should be, are there any suspicious bows or sags that weren't there before?

HG's respond significantly to a change in a dimension equal to the thickness of a piece of notebook paper. It doesn't take much of a sudden change in structure to move things more than that.

I would suggest that if the environment you keep this instrument in is relatively stable, and the instrument has a good history of playing properly, that you have some sort of catastrophic failure in some part of the structure, and even though the overall appearance might not show it, and it might not be catastrophic for the instrument as a whole (it might not cause the whole thing to fall apart or be bursting at the seams) you should probably investigate to see if this is a one-time shift, a progressive failure, or something more serious.

Just my $.02 worth

Chris Nogy


Chris-

You are obviously accustomed to troubleshooting something! I like your comment, "Most instruments settle with age, but most stabilize, and good design takes this into account." I understand what you're saying, of course, but I had to smile, thinking about the ubiquitous paper shims, winter and summer chiens, movable melody string nuts and tangents, etc. Few musicians other than hurdy-gurdy players deal with such variations in adjustment, and accept them as normal!

I do not own the hurdy-gurdy in question, and I have no control over its environment. Your comments are well taken; however in this case I am troubleshooting what I perceive to be a problem which occurs on a many of the hurdy-gurdies I've heard, or possibly, according to some, *all* hurdy-gurdies, so I'm generalizing beyond the possible "catastrophic failure" of one particular instrument. Perhaps this pitch-dropping effect is in fact an unavoidable result of the nature of the mechanical system, and as such there is no "fixing" it. Nevertheless, it is more apparent on some hurdy-gurdies than others, and it would be nice to gain an understanding of the cause and determine whether there is a repeatable way to minimize the effect in new construction and/or existing hurdy-gurdies. In other words, "good design taking it into account."

~ Matt

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