--- Eaton Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roy Trotter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 October 2006 09:37
> > To: [email protected]
> > 
> > Irish sessions are
> > boring with dragging out the same 30 tunes every time and we have
> to
> > play the version that whoever knows. 
> 
> I can sympathise with that feeling!  But to be honest, Roy, I reckon
> this
> jaded feeling is a fairly common phenomenon at sessions of all ilk,
> particularly if there's a slow turn-over of session members.

"jaded feeling" I like that. The problem difference between Irish and
French is that one can't improvise harmony on Irirsh sessions. The
French things, you can play those A LOT and keep adding new ideas,
which keeps 'em a little fresher.  There is a type of egghead that that
has very limited ideas about what is Traditional (I'm at work and this
is  e-mail so and HTML coding depends on whether you have it enabled
but please read "traditional" in 48 point Copperplate italics and ( I
don't know how to code this:) steeped in an aura of sanctity. 
Most of the time you know better, but you have the chivalric
restriction again fighting a battle of wits with the unarmed, and the
thing about argueing with fools, yr not gonna convince them, only make
a fool of yourself. 

Maybe the French/Euros have the same thing, but they are speaking
French/Euro so I don't understand a word of it....problem solved.
 
> I'm convinced that this isn't because the HG has the wrong sound for
> the
> music, but more that I have developed an Anglo-French 'accent' in my
> playing.  I suspect it is largely to do with the way I ornament my
> melody.
> 
> This notion of 'accent' can be quite pronounced in some instruments
> and with
> some musical traditions. So I imagine it would be quite easy to
> distinguish
> someone brought up in the Irish tradition playing the same tune as
> someone
> brought up in, say, the Finnish, or the Hungarian traditions.
> 
> Has anyone ever experienced this phenomenon of regional 'accents' in
> hurdy-gurdy playing?  If asked to play a particular piece of music,
> do you
> think you would be able to tell the difference between a Vielleuse, a
> 'Tekerist' and a hurdy-gurdy player, for example?

I can sometimes tell listening to a fiddler if they learned the tunes
from a piper or a banjo player, etc, and I am aware of "accent" in
playing. Again with fiddle... the Bourbonais guys have a different
sound than the Breton guys, but they are not playing the same tunes so
I'm not sure. I know a guy that cared a lot about that very issue and
it might be a good thing to discuss with him. If I can get him to
codify on an e-mail, I'll fwd. 

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