"harpe de gourde" is in  french   gourde is a  container    to put water    
when you are in desert ,   or  the recipient   the armed  forces   guys put  
water inside ,,   it  can look  coconut   shell,,, or  alluminium  bottle   
with  green cloth cover all around ..or ? gourde is a  water container ..  bye  
sylvain
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nathan Roy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [HG] Harpe de Gourde


  I'm under the impression that "harpe de gourde" is an etymological 
back-formation, posited to explain the origin of the English term 
"hurdy-gurdy". To my knowledge, there isn't actually much evidence for it's 
authentic and independent use. I'm not an expert, but my experience in 
linguistics has taught me to be skeptical when two terms for the same object 
are so similar in pronunciation, but lack a history of intermediate forms or a 
reasonable theory of phonetic mutation. This often indicates an instance of 
folk etymology, in which a term of obscure or even foreign origin is altered, 
so as to provide a straightforward justification for its form and meaning. I 
can't come up with a lot of examples off the top of my head, but this is a 
fairly common linguistic process. "Gourd harp" doesn't make much sense as a 
description of the HG, but "hurdy-gurdy" doesn't mean anything at all!

  Nathan Roy


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  Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:09:05 -0400
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [HG] Harpe de Gourde


  Hello, someone just told me that he had saw the hurdy gurdy being referred to 
as a "Harpe de gourde", or gourd harp.  I've never seen this term for a HG, and 
was just wondering if anyone has info on its origins.  Thanks!

  Vero

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