I agree.  The whole signed-off thing just sounded
just-a-little-less-annoying than signing a CLA.  And it misses covering
non-PR contributions - we (committer) could do the signed-off as we apply
the patch, but that defeats the whole intent.

So yes, I was glad that Richard saw this the same way.

BTW.. can't remember if I mentioned it, but I also worked on README.md[1]
and the ORM contributing website page[2].  For whatever reason the
README.md is rendering goofy now - if anyone has ideas why, would love to
hear how to fix it.  It uses asciidoc(tor) syntax as part of a markdown
file so not sure how GitHub ever rendered that properly before.

[1] https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/blob/master/README.md
[2] http://hibernate.org/orm/contribute/

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:42 AM Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> wrote:

> On 9 August 2017 at 09:21, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.s...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> signed-off is not required.  Richard is in agreement with that. Of
> course
> >> if you feel it is warranted and useful you can use it the other
> projects,
> >> but for ORM I am making the decision to not complicate these processes
> >> needlessly.
> >
> >
> > If not strictly necessary, I'm +1 for not requiring the sign off on the
> > NoORM projects. I suspect it will make the process as painful as the
> current
> > CLA process (it's not a common thing so we will have to ask people to
> amend
> > their commits).
> I agree it would have been a barrier; the whole "signed-off"
> discussion had me worried.. just checking that we indeed got explicit
> directions of not needing to bother with it, that would make me happy.
> Thanks Steve!
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