It's always hard to guess the number of users...   I wish there was an easy
way to find out how many people use a package so I knew what level of effort
to expend on it!

Based on the number of emails that I have received directly to me, more then
a handful, less then many!  I receive a direct email probably every three
weeks about the package.

Having gone back through them, I am culling out the typical questions, and
will commit some docs to the wiki.  I'm also moving to a completely native
build based on what Max has done.  One thing is that this package because of
it's nature, drags in a lot of jars..   Is it okay to use the ant <get> task
to download them, or should we include them in CVS.  I don't want to bulk up
CVS unnecessarily.

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emmanuel Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 10:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Max Rydahl Andersen; hibernate-devel
> Subject: Re: [Hibernate] 24 hour eviction notice to Avalon in
> hibernateext (and removal of deprecated stuff)
>
>
> I guess, that if you can update it with the new package hierarchy
> (org.hibernate instead of net.sf.hibernate) and build system Max did
> last month, you can bring it back to life.
> BTW do you have any idea of the number of people using it ?
> I know Pico guys have one or two Hibernate adaptors.
>
> Eric Pugh wrote:
>
> >That would defintly be my fault....  The Avalon stuff did get changed to
> >build with Ant only...   (Even though I left the old Maven stuff in for
> >those who like it... :-) ).
> >
> >If it can be reinstated, great, otherwise I understand.
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Max
> >>Rydahl Andersen
> >>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:05 PM
> >>To: hibernate-devel
> >>Subject: [Hibernate] 24 hour eviction notice to Avalon in hibernateext
> >>(and removal of deprecated stuff)
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>In the process of changing package names in hibernate core it is time
> >>to do the same in hibernateext.
> >>
> >>I will also do the following (a par with previous mails in april)
> >>
> >>* remove hbm2dll and class2hbm as they are not maintained and anyhow
> >>deprecated.
> >>
> >>Avalon received a "warning" in april and
> >>
> >>Eric Pugh wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I didn't realize the avalon stuff wasn't building using Ant..  I was
> >>>hoping
> >>>to dump the old Maven based build and move it over to just Ant.
> >>>
> >>>I can get that done next week (visiting family this week!).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>And unfortunatly nothing has happend their yet (as I can see?!)
> >>
> >>Thus
> >>
> >>* the avalon component will be *removed* unless someone speaks up and
> >>fixes it in the next 24 hours!
> >>
> >>Best regards,
> >>Max
> >>
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