OK, I ditched rule (2).

Now they are completely orthogonal.

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On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Gavin King wrote:

> Only rule (2) is suspect. We don't need it, and I can get rid of it if

> you guys like. I've added it because I think it might help reduce the 
> number of forum questions from people who wonder "why do I get lazy 
> fetching when fetch=join?".

Not following the forums much, is that really a problem?

> Note that the association-level lazy setting is now *completely 
> respected*. if I run a HQL query and some of the objects in the result

> set have non-lazy associations, those associations will be 
> *immediately fetched*.

Major change, has to be announced on homepage for 3.0.3 release.



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