Assalamualaikum,

you got it right sister. and yes, i'm glad there are
opposition in malaysia thus there will be check and
balance.

without going into specific contents of the forwarded
email, i can easily point out all ideas that will lead
towards destruction.  i've no quelms critizing the
govt,..but when you insinuate or even infer that one
is  of lesser faith...now that's alarming. 

as an acid test, we can remove the political things
aside fr the mail ...and what stands out..is
SCRUTINIZING others faith - based on our limited
understanding the issues.  

hypothethical Question :  If the govt...is of fr
different ideologi (let say PAS)..and such matter
happened... tell me...is it right for ANYBODY to
question their faith for the FAILURES of some
organization in executing their jobs?  

Does it warrant for me to exploit the issues to
highlight HOW LESS ISLAMIC PAS is? My answer would be
a BIG NO NO!!.

mind me, Allah. S.W.T said, truth is not in accordance
to our vein desire. so it never.

so...what i'm saying is, if you want to reproof,
rectify and want others to repent, it should be on the
system or even the organization  who failed to execute
their duties deligent...and yes, that will help the
org or individual to grow...and that rebuilding
process will take place.

but matters on faith on the other hands...too
intangible and arguing abt it...will be too idotic and
cause chaos among the ummah.

Btw..am not pro govt. or even the opposition, but i'm
anti anykind of information that could stir ummah
sentiments to go bust..and irrationale.

i can go the deeper extent to elaborate my point and
even prove my case - that instigation in ISLAM is
indeed haram. critical feedback and reminders are
mandatory.

NO. I'm not wright. but am not wrong either. 

Waallahualam. Praying for yr spiritual advancement as
I've wished u've prayed for mine. InsyaAllah. amin.

/dzan

pls don't misunderstood me.  I hate hate-mails, though
i received plenty due to my loud thoughts, but i
believe  
--- Tengku Putri Shariman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Dear Brother Dzam
> W'kumsalam
> 
> I think it's alright to be critical of the
> government - after all they were
> voted by some of  us anyway. There need to be some
> check and balance after
> all,  I thank GOD, Alhamdulillah,  the opposition
> exist in the parliament.
> 
> Some of the info. that the sister highlighted are
> important points which we
> should think about, and as you said, do something to
> rectify:
> 1- our rights as Muslim consumers - be active in or
> at least support 
> Persatuan Pengguna Islam, buy muslim products...etc.
> 2-the moral degradation of muslims, young and OLD 
> (who are mostly not
> role-models; - fathers neglecting family, not
> implementing Islamic lifestyle
> etc.) - do dakwah to the young and old, and be
> role-models ourselves
> 3-the Interfaith Commission - support Muslim Lawyers
> Association in their
> struggle to stop the setting up of this commission.
> However, we should
> encourage dialogues between different faiths.
> 
> Finally, all critiques should be supported by facts,
> and not mere opinions,
> and should be channeled to the right people for
> action - Ministries,
> Government Institutions (JAWI etc.), NGO and MPS
> (both government and
> opposition).
> 
> For me, Islam has always been perfect,  Islam
> Hadhari or not...........it's
> just the question of whether we want to accept our
> faith wholeheartedly (as
> an Ad-DEEN, a way of life) and be practicing muslim
> and muslimah.
> 
> Thank you
>  
> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: meee youuuu
> Date: 03/17/05 16:40:08
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hidayahnet
> Subject: Re: [ummiku-sayang] Islam Hadhari - what's
> wrong with our faith
> now?
>  
> Assalamualaikum,
>  
> the sender is posting queries that are not worth
> exploring - because it does
> not geared towards REPROOF, RECTIFY or even
> REPENT...towards the ONENESS of
> ALLAH / ISLAM.  It is just some hypothethical
> questions that are trying to
> DiVIDE and CONQUER. (and someone will be laughing
> out there).
>  
> I'm sadden by this. Apparently, I'm sure the
> sender(s)  have some beliefs
> that they can do better. If so, I would suggest that
> the sender, pick the
> matter up and try to RECTIFY....or is it the sender
> try to highlight how
> UNISLAMIC is the GOVT. who talks abt ISLAM handhari.
>  If you feel something
> wrong with the system, assist to correct it, but
> don't through anykind of
> insinuation that will only split the ummah.
>  
> pls UNITE to build NOT to destroy.
>  
> apparently, the sender failed to show his virtue as
> a muslim....  am so sad
> because such matters are so..apparent in our
> community now days...yet they
> constantly say, show and act that they are BETTER
> MUSLIMS than others.
>  
> me? well...as long as someone said that the is a
> MUSLIM, I'll never want to
> doubt him. if he does soemthing wrong in front on
> me...i'll react
> accordingly, but to insinuate that he is a lesser
> muslim...nah....I SHOULD
> TELL THAT TO MYSELF INSTEAD...if i have the guts.
>  
> so rhetoric and so..ironic. 
>  
> to the senders, YOU SHOULD QUESTIONS YR FAITH BEFORE
> OTHERS.
>  
> wallahualam. praying for yr spiritual advancement as
> i've wished u've prayed
> for mine. insyallah. amin.
>  
> /dzan
>  
>  
>  
> IslahGateway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: IMMA
> To: Listku
>  
> Below some queries which worth to ponder....
>  
> 1    - berapa jauhkah perlaksaan islam hadhari.
> Adakah ianya sekadar
> dipolitickan? Kalau tidak then adakah isu JAWI and
> isu makanan tanda halal
> (yg sekarang byk di TV3) merupakan sesuatu yg govrn
> islam hadhari tidak
> berbuat apa apa,
>  
>     or, adakah ia bermakna, dgn islam hadhari nie,
> muslim actually memberi
> peluang kebebasan kepada non-muslim (or muslim
> sendiri) utk memperlekehkan
> islam (cthnya syarikat yg mempalsukan tanda halal
> tidak dibenarkan dimention
> namanya di TV manakala jeslina yg ditangkap boleh
> pulak comdemn dan
> memperlekehkan JAWI?)
>  
>  
> Sausage (hotdog) dari usus khinzir - Bulletin Utama
> TV3 - 14/3/2005
> 
> 
> Forwarded message:
> 
> Malam semalam, kalau ada sesiapa yang tengok Buletin
> Utama TV3 pasti tau TV3
>  Persatuan Pengguna Islam Malaysia (PPIM) &
> Kementerian apa lagi satu saya 
> tak ingat telah membuat serbuan ke satu kilang
> membuat 'sausage' di kawasan
> Selangor.  'Sausage' tersebut menggunakan usus
> khinzir dan TV3 turut hadir. 
> Malangnya jenama sausage tersebut tidak dibagitahu.
> 
> Hari ni, sebab perasaan membuak2 nak tau, I
> personally called-up TV3's news
> room and was told that the brand is manufactured by 
> Muller's Sausage Haus
> Sdn. Bhd and they are also the supplier for Ikea !!
> (Kalau pernah pergi Ikea
> you all mesti tau about cafe makanan kat Ikea tu). 
> Yang untuk Ikea tu
> namanya 'Varmkorv'.
> 
> katanya Buletin Utama akan buat more coverage
> tonite.
>  
>  
> 2    - adakah Islam hadhari itu sendiri tidak mampu
> berdiri sendiri dan
> sangat lemah yg menyebabkan semenjak islam hadhari
> diperkenalkan, govn telah
> somehow "memberi jalan" kepada penubuhan Inter-Faith
> Commission of Malaysia
> (ICM) dimana agama minority lain boleh pulak ada say
> dlm undang undang (say
> murtad) Islam. The fact that the idea was postponed
> (seingat -ingatnya just
> postponed - is that mean akan diluluskan di masa
> depan, bilamana semua org
> paham islam hadhari??) was because NGO lain
> complained like JIM, ABIM, PAS
> etc...
>  
>  OR, adakah inilah result due to the fact that islam
> hadhari itu sendiri yg
> menumpukan kepada "tamadun" and tidak
> menitikberatkan akhlak, siasah and
> unsur unsur lainnya?
>  
> 3 - adakah islam hadhari ini cuma indah khabar dari
> rupa and tiada
> perlaksanaan?
>  
> 4- adakah dgn terlaksananya islah hadhari, dgn
> secara langsungnya org yg
> tidak ada ilmu yg mencukupi dlm Islam especially
> politician boleh ada hak
> bercakap pasal agama and mendapat coverage
> semaksimum mungkin di media
> malaysia, sebuah negara islam hadhari? - cthnya 
> Moral Yang Tergugat (Morals At Stake) Oleh: Marina
> Mahathir - The Star 5 Mac
>  2005    
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hidayahnet/message/7346
> Untuk sape2 yang tak kenal, Marina ni anak Tun
> Mahathir, 
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