Thank you John, As always, a wealth of information. I did do a PAS for him, I am not totally sure he knows exactly what he is looking for. I always learn something from your posts. Betsy
Betsy Molinari Sr. Histology Research Technician CV Pathology Research Texas Heart Institute 6770 Bertner Avenue, MC 1-283 Houston, TX 77030 Office: 832-355-6524 | Fax: 832-355-6812 Email: [email protected] texasheart.org <www.texasheart.org> | facebook <www.facebook.com/Texas.Heart.Institute> | twitter <twitter.com/Texas_Heart> -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Forster via Histonet <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:17 AM To: Morken, Timothy <[email protected]> Cc: Histonet <[email protected]>; John Kiernan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Mallory-Azan stain *** Important*** This email is not from Texas Heart Institute. Only click links or open attachments you know are safe. ________________________________ Wow John, Great information.,....always so much to learn!~ Thank you, Colleen Forster U of MN On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:55 AM Morken, Timothy via Histonet < [email protected]> wrote: > John, we love it when you "ramble!" It gives us an appreciation for > the history and breadth of histo techniques. > > Tim Morken > Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies > Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Kiernan via Histonet > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:43 AM > To: '[email protected]'; Betsy Molinari > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Mallory-Azan stain > > Mallory's (easy) and AZAN staining (difficult) are different methods! > > Frank B. Mallory's trichrome stain (Journal of Medical Research 13: > 113-136, 1905) is the earliest and one of the simplest of its kind: > acid fuchsine followed by a solution containing orange G, aniline blue > and phosphotungstic acid (PTA). Martin Heidenhain's trichrome is > usually called AZAN (from Azokarmin and Anilinblau, the German names > of two of the dyes used. I've not read his original 1916 publiication, > but a very thorough account was given by Manfred Gabe in his 1976 > Histological Techniques book (ISBN 3540901620), pp. 219-223. I used > this quite a bit in the 1990s mostly on paraffin sections of Bouin-fixed > decalcified rats' > heads. It is a 15-step procedure taking >2 hours and it includes two > critical differentiations requiring careful microscopic control. > Instructions based on my experiences can be found in Histological and > Histochemical Methods (5th ed., 2015, pp.198-200). > > AZAN gives a wider range of colours than Mallory's or Masson's > trichrome or the various one-step trichromes (Cason, Gomori, Gabe). > The related Romeis "cresazan" procedure was used to identify at least > 6 anterior pituitary cell-types until the 1950s when more rational > histochemically based stains were introduced by Adams, Herlant, Pearse and > others. > Nowadays, immunostainng accurately shows the hormones in pituitary > cells, but much more expensively. > > All trichromes give poor results after simple fixation in neutral > formaldehyde. Bouin or (better) a mercuric chloride-containing > fixative is needed. Zinc-formalin is probably also OK. (I haven't > tried it myself for this purpose). If material fixed in NBF must be > used, immerse hydrated paraffin sections in saturated aqueous picric > acid either for 2h at 56-60C or overnight at room temperature, then wash well > in water before staining. > (Bouin's fluid is often used, but its ingredients other than picric > acid are unnecessary.) Experiments are needed to learn the mechanism > of this "rescue" of staining properties of sections > formaldehyde-fixed tissue, which is sometimes wrongly called > "mordanting". My guess is that it's comparable to antigen retrieval. > It has been claimed that citrate buffer is just as good, though the photos > are unconvincing (J. Histotechnol. 26, 133). > > It should be possible to identify Purkinje fibres with any staining > method that shows nuclei and myofibrils, such as H&E or a trichrome > method simpler than AZAN. A glycogen stain such as PAS might show this > substance in the otherwise pale areas around the central nuclei of > Purkinje fibres. I suggest persuading your researcher to let you try > something simpler before attempting Heidenhain's AZAN. Wheater's > Functional Histology has a nice photomicrograph of a section stained > with H&E and for endocardial elastin (looks like orcein). > > Enough rambling! > John Kiernan > Anatomy & Cell Biology > University of Western Ontario > London, Canada > = = = > > ________________________________ > From: Betsy Molinari via Histonet <[email protected]> > Sent: 09 September 2019 10:53 > To: '[email protected]' > <[email protected] > > > Subject: [Histonet] Mallory-Azan stain > > Hi histonetters, > I have a researcher that wants to stain Purkinje fibers and has > requested a Mallory-Azan stain. > I have no experience with this stain. 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